DP 7.01, PPC, 10.4.11...near perfect ; )

[HCMarkus]

Just installed DP 7 and it is opening all my 4.61 files flawlessly... I did have to go back and open some projects in 4.61 to take the old MAS antares auto-tune plug out of any tracks - it causes an instant auto-crash!!! (Antares stopped supporting MAS after 4.61).

The AU version works fine. I've been using it for years, and it has been performing in DP6.02 better than under 4.x or 5.x, which bodes well for DP7.

PS: Glad to hear you have an extra blanket now!

[Nibiru]

ok so,

you're retarded if you're bashing MOTU at this point. Logic, or any other DAW, couldn't tie Motu's shoes with thirteen fingers and toes. And why is DP the front end to soooooooo many PT rigs? insert common sense here_________.

DP7 is amazing. After 3 more projects completed, I could not be happier. Somehow, the random graphic abnormalites, with the mixing board not updating pans and fader movements...are gone. Strange, but true. Zero crashes, as of yet. MOTU is my hero. THANK YOU. And THANK YOU to the excellent people of this forum.

[Radiogal]

Just installed DP 7 and it is opening all my 4.61 files flawlessly.

Plus the Lows are deeper, the mids more detailed and defined and the highs are smoother (and clearer, - I mean it's like I took a blanket off my speakers or something). hahaha - just kidding.

So your statement about the sound quality is not true?
I wonder cuz I read several ppl claming DP 6 and 7 sounding better than earlier versions.
So ur true experience and opinion would be appreciated.

[zandurian]

Plus the Lows are deeper, the mids more detailed and defined and the highs are smoother (and clearer, - I mean it's like I took a blanket off my speakers or something). hahaha - just kidding.

So your statement about the sound quality is not true?
I wonder cuz I read several ppl claming DP 6 and 7 sounding better than earlier versions.
So ur true experience and opinion would be appreciated.

There is no change in sound quality since I'm using the exact same conversion/playback hardware and same plug-ins and mix settings etc. I made the joke because when anyone DOES get new (ie: more expensive) converters or mic pres (or whatever) they automatically hear this drastic improvement and some make the "it's like I took a blanket off my speakers" comment and sometimes methinks the improvement is more subtle and yet the mind tricks one a bit (thinking how hard one worked for the cash one put out).

Since I got *something* new I thought it would be a funny thing to say but no, any perceived improvement in sound quality (without adding some of the cool new plugs or instruments!) would be more psychological - you SEE something new on the screen, you spent money - so it must sound better, right? .

But really what you are getting is a more efficient system with new features to help you make it sound better. Simply opening the same project ad playing it is not going to change a thing, except maybe in your mind.

That said - if I'm missing something about this somebody tell me - because it does seem like that snare drum is just a little, mmm... snarier....

[zandurian]

Just installed DP 7 and it is opening all my 4.61 files flawlessly.

Plus the Lows are deeper, the mids more detailed and defined and the highs are smoother (and clearer, - I mean it's like I took a blanket off my speakers or something). hahaha - just kidding.

So your statement about the sound quality is not true?
I wonder cuz I read several ppl claming DP 6 and 7 sounding better than earlier versions.
So ur true experience and opinion would be appreciated.

YIKES - the more I'm listening... Maybe something is sonically different. Anybody want to weigh in on this?

[HCMarkus]

Search the posts.... if I recall correctly, it was a member named Pete who did a null test confirming no difference between versions.

[gearboy]

Just installed DP 7 and it is opening all my 4.61 files flawlessly.

Plus the Lows are deeper, the mids more detailed and defined and the highs are smoother (and clearer, - I mean it's like I took a blanket off my speakers or something). hahaha - just kidding.

Anyway - it's working fine, seems to be more efficient so far. I did have to go back and open some projects in 4.61 to take the old MAS antares auto-tune plug out of any tracks - it causes an instant auto-crash!!! (Antares stopped supporting MAS after 4.61).

I'll report back after I do some major work.

I'm still on 10.4.11 and running DP 4.61. Powerbook and a G5. Everything works well for me, however I know that in the next six months I'm going to upgrade the Powerbook to a MBP. I want to have all of the software that I am using current before that move. So I am going to pick up DP7 knowing that it is working well on my current system and also working well on the system that I'll be running sometime in 2010.

Once question: Will I have to update my Waves plug-ins to run on the new version of DP, or will I be able to get away with the same stuff that I'm running under DP 4.61?

Jeff

[zandurian]

I'm still on 10.4.11 and running DP 4.61. Powerbook and a G5. Everything works well for me, however I know that in the next six months I'm going to upgrade the Powerbook to a MBP. I want to have all of the software that I am using current before that move. So I am going to pick up DP7 knowing that it is working well on my current system and also working well on the system that I'll be running sometime in 2010.

Once question: Will I have to update my Waves plug-ins to run on the new version of DP, or will I be able to get away with the same stuff that I'm running under DP 4.61?

Jeff

I just easy-installed dp7 and it apparently added the new plugs where they go and all my waves and UAD plugs remained and work fine. DP4 and DP5 are still there and can be used if necessary. So far absolutely stable.

[gearboy]

I just easy-installed dp7 and it apparently added the new plugs where they go and all my waves and UAD plugs remained and work fine. DP4 and DP5 are still there and can be used if necessary. So far absolutely stable.

What version of the Waves Plug-ins are you using?

[Shooshie]

Once question: Will I have to update my Waves plug-ins to run on the new version of DP, or will I be able to get away with the same stuff that I'm running under DP 4.61?

I'm using Waves version 6. It works fine for me on DP7.

[zandurian]

Once question: Will I have to update my Waves plug-ins to run on the new version of DP, or will I be able to get away with the same stuff that I'm running under DP 4.61?

I'm using Waves version 6. It works fine for me on DP7.

Same here - 6.0.5 to be exact.

[HCMarkus]

I just easy-installed dp7 and it apparently added the new plugs where they go and all my waves and UAD plugs remained and work fine. DP4 and DP5 are still there and can be used if necessary. So far absolutely stable.

What version of the Waves Plug-ins are you using?

If you are still using Waves MAS, you will need to move to AU. See my sig for my Waves version... I think this is the oldest version you will be able to get away with for a PPC, but when you move to Intel, I'm pretty sure you will need Waves 6.

[mhschmieder]

I'll have my full report later today.

I haven't opened DP7 yet -- I am first performing comprehensive backups of my system drive and external drives, in case any projects, audio files, or support files get corrupted.

I read through all the new sections of the manual last night and am quite excited over several of the new features and behaviours, as I know they will accelerate workflow.

[mhschmieder]

Yep, you'd almost think DP7 was tailored for those stuck on legacy PPC's and Tiger.

I guess it uses the DP6 cache vs. starting from scratch, because startup was almost instantaneous; just validating the new MAS plug-ins that come with DP7.

In fact, even after validating these new plug-ins that ship with DP7, startup was probably 10x faster than in DP6 (on my machine).

No problems re-opening the project I was just working on, with all settings intact in eight separate sequences/chunks.

Channel Strip is why I spent the $200+ now vs. waiting for a new computer. This will quadruple my productivity and minimize errors, and will even help once I get a new computer with a larger monitor.

Let's face it, when you are isolating a track to choose plug-ins, pan amounts, etc., you rarely need the actual Mixer window itself; just the details of that track.

Furthermore, on smaller screens, and even some larger screens, one has to do a LOT of scrolling to see the entire track, and this causes performance issues, as well as loss of train of thought or not being clear on which track you are working with.

Being able to expand the track name without impacting the Mixer window is also a bonus. I use long track names as I name my tracks after the equipment used in the recording, as this is more future-proof and DAW-neutral (as well as searchable) vs. using Track Comments. So the audio files are named after the sound source and the patch, with additional details, or after the instrument and the mic.

The tiny narrow view in the Mixer window, though it can be customized, was always a problem for me, especially as I had to do so much width-wise scrolling regardless of the channel display width.

So, Channel Strip is especially helpful to those with small monitors, but swith large track count projects, would help even those with larger monitors, and for people who have a second portable computer for remote sessions or editing, will still come in handy on that second computer.

I haven't touched the other new features yet, except for the Lyric editor.

Later this week, I'll try opening up DP 3.5 projects from the OS 9 days that haven't been opened since. That will be the true test, based on some problems reported in another posting.

[Rainman]

Well, I have to say I'm impressed at this point. I installed DP 7 1 day ago and ran it through all the routines for my work flow. So far, rock stable. The best part is being able to work with ToonTrack Superior again without workarounds. Most of the studio work I do is with singer/songwriters these days, from demos to full albums, so having quick access to drum files is a must. Even on 6.0.1, which was the last time Superior worked properly for me, it wouldn't allow me to drag MIDI files into the graphic editor, but now happily I can do this also. Nice work Motu.

Rainman