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Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:06 pm
by dpdan
Schtiv wrote:DP freezes for up to 30 seconds • Increasing the buffer size causes DP to 'uneqpectedly' quit • Closing a song causes DP to 'unexpectedly' quit • Quitting DP still gives me an unexpectedly quit message! • Command Up Arrow/Down arrow doesn't zoom the tracks window.
Comping: Expand to tracks - fantastic! Absorb into takes - Fantastic! Comp tool - far too complicated - much easier to use scissor tool and mute tool
beutifully and accurately described,,, 30 seconds almost to the second, I just watch the mixer's peaks disappear, then I have to hit play but wait,,, only hitting play the second time makes DP play. GEEZ!
If the green "play" arrow is lit, you just have to sit back with the client and say not now,, we have to wait for it to crash riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight NOW! .. MIne acts exactly like yours Schtiv.
Here I am discussing it again,
Just so anyone who is reading this knows, I am a DP maniac, I eat breath and live DP, and many other forums' members know it too. I just hate mouthing off about how pathetic it is.
Dan
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:39 pm
by monkey man
I must admit that the headaches caused to some have seen my installing '6 simply to make an image of the clean install and subsequently mounting a '5 image "thereover". LOL
Then again, I wouldn't even have a copy yet if the wholesaler had listened to me - the boss of said body agreed to send me a copy only when I requested it (I paid upfront), which I would have done soon should 6.1 arrive in December when I expect it to. When the stock arrived in Aus the wholesalers responded by sending me a copy of 6.0, an autonomous, unthinking action IMHO.
Bottom line - even though I've hitherto delighted in pushing the DP envelope, I've chosen not to even approach the letter box this time.
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:59 pm
by macpibe
by FMiguelez on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 am
macpibe wrote:
After reading previous DP6 user problems in this forum, I confirm this. DP6 (or 6.01) is a shame of software.
MOTU sells a program FULL of serious bugs.
Sorry fans of Performer.
Many thanks.
This attitude won't get you far. MOTU is NOT selling a program full of bugs. It DOES work for MANY incredibly well, so please don't spread misinformation just because it doesn't work for you. I use DP 6.01 on my laptop and I haven't noticed ANY problems so far. And DP 4.61 has been stupid great in my main rig for years now, virtually crash free.
Are you autistic or have a job in MOTU? Read the other reports here. "so please don't spread misinformation just because it WORK for you."
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:55 pm
by Phil O
Some people are having problems with DP 6. Some people are NOT. Part of the reason we all come here is to work out those problems by comparing notes and hopefully help each other out in the process. Although I've been known to vent from time to time, this constant rant helps no one. If you must bitch about the program, bitch directly to MOTU. I think I speak for most of us here when I say that we're starting to get sick of this type of post. If you're having problems and think someone might be able to help, fine. Post your problem, and hope for the best. If all you want to do is rant, keep it to yourself.
Now I'm ranting.
Outa here...
Phil
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:01 pm
by martian
spirit wrote:Presumably those with problems have tried all the standard troubleshooting procedures? i.e. trashing preferences (for third party stuff as well), repairing permissions, checking the disk. In fact if everything was working perfectly for a month and then stopped working properly- a new install- no applications that had been added in the interim etc. could be considered. Even try on an external drive to isolate the problems (disk authorizations won't work like NI stuff requires- but you can see if the problem remains or if it is something other than DP6)
Standard optimizations for audio daw systems should be considered (digidesign has a list if no one else does). Take all third party stuff (i.e. sampletank which has a somewhat less than perfect reputation) out, even the motu interface drivers could be corrupted. Use only new session files in case any problems are from corruptions in the files which you are using ( which conceivable could corrupt the preferences etc.). If no problems add things back in until you have problems.
Could be a bit of work, but a couple of hours could possibly save considerable time dealing with crashes or learing a different program ( and it's bugs).
With thorough troubleshooting posting problems that remain, along with specific circumstances they occur under is very helpful for ever user who looks here to find out what others know about any problems they might be experiencing.
whilst this is good general advice - i dont see why just one project is affected by multiple serial crash on save - rest of reels are not - logically it is something in that specific project - or ALL would be affected right?
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:52 pm
by kassonica
i dont see why just one project is affected by multiple serial crash on save - rest of reels are not - logically it is something in that specific project - or ALL would be affected right?
Aint that the truth
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:52 am
by Schtiv
Thanks for berrating me! It seems that at least some of my gripes should have been with the manual rather than with the software. I've been a little too busy to read each of the one-thousand and fifty-eight pages, so just have it handy to dip into when I get stuck.
...So, humble pie...
I stand corrected on the key command for solo - but I couldn't find it in the manual - perhaps it's there somewhere?
I stand corrected on the key command for autoscroll (hooray!!!) - but I couldn't find it in the manual.
& I stand corrected on Tooltips, but they're called Help Tags - I couldn't find them in the manual as they're not in the index. (Ironically if you type "Help Tags" into 'Help > Search' the menu hides "Show Help Tags" lurking at the bottom! Oh dear!)
Right - well that's the first 2hrs of my day lost. but worth it if only for Autoscroll - Schtiv!
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:55 am
by martian
my favourite window in DPis shift- the commandswindow- can search for stuff there - and that gives u hints on some neat editing tricks...
I ahve totally customised my keystrokes- my keyboard is a dangerous!!!!
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:03 am
by wylie1
I had a chance to work with DP6.01 and heres what I found.
DP6.01 was total unusable for me 3 un/reinstalls last one on a secondary drive.
Opened new project and importing sequence into new didn't fix the issues it seams to just load the bad data into the new sequence.
The last thing I tried was opening a new project and drag the audio files from the old one into the new one at a time.
Sure enough one of the files gave me an error "unable to read file disk full" however disk is not full.
After dragging over all the files expected the ones that gave me errors the project played fine.
Alas I was able to complete all 10 songs I started in DP6.01.
So it looks like the problem was corrupted audio files.
How ever there seams to be no to reason these files should have become corrupted with out any editing done to them.
I guess the main problem for me here was all the errors that did not seam to relate to the cause.
Spinning balls,playback overload, crashes,unexpected quits also DP would just disappear off the screen with no error.
a "bad audio file error would have been nice"
Any how after leaving the bad files out all was well
I've never had to deal with corrupt files like this before so I will be doing some more testing I'll post back if I can find the cause.
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:35 am
by bOing
martian wrote:my favourite window in DPis shift- the commandswindow- can search for stuff there - and that gives u hints on some neat editing tricks...
I ahve totally customised my keystrokes- my keyboard is a dangerous!!!!
Can you edit that, Mars Baby? I didn't get the full context of what you were saying. Thanks.
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:47 pm
by Sean Kenny
Moreover
anybody still using a DP4.61 on a laptop is not recording serious audio projects.
We call all run 10 or 15 tracks without problems!!!
macpibe wrote:by FMiguelez on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 am
macpibe wrote:
After reading previous DP6 user problems in this forum, I confirm this. DP6 (or 6.01) is a shame of software.
MOTU sells a program FULL of serious bugs.
Sorry fans of Performer.
Many thanks.
This attitude won't get you far. MOTU is NOT selling a program full of bugs. It DOES work for MANY incredibly well, so please don't spread misinformation just because it doesn't work for you. I use DP 6.01 on my laptop and I haven't noticed ANY problems so far. And DP 4.61 has been stupid great in my main rig for years now, virtually crash free.
Are you autistic or have a job in MOTU? Read the other reports here. "so please don't spread misinformation just because it WORK for you."
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:55 pm
by bOing
That's it! Off to your rooms!!!
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:16 pm
by kassonica
Sean Kenny wrote:Moreover
anybody still using a DP4.61 on a laptop is not recording serious audio projects.
We call all run 10 or 15 tracks without problems!!!
macpibe wrote:by FMiguelez on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:18 am
macpibe wrote:
After reading previous DP6 user problems in this forum, I confirm this. DP6 (or 6.01) is a shame of software.
MOTU sells a program FULL of serious bugs.
Sorry fans of Performer.
Many thanks.
This attitude won't get you far. MOTU is NOT selling a program full of bugs. It DOES work for MANY incredibly well, so please don't spread misinformation just because it doesn't work for you. I use DP 6.01 on my laptop and I haven't noticed ANY problems so far. And DP 4.61 has been stupid great in my main rig for years now, virtually crash free.
Are you autistic or have a job in MOTU? Read the other reports here. "so please don't spread misinformation just because it WORK for you."
Um do you mind.
We keep any insults to ourselves because a lot of here ARE PROFESSIONAL working people. It doesn't matter whether you use DP100 or DP3 if it gets the job done.
I got paid recently for a recording using DP4.61 on a G4 powerbook.
Not all the reports are bad my system is working very very well outside of some minor bugs and I've been using it A LOT.
Maybe because I look after and OPTIMIZE my OS and ask questions as a opposed to insulting people on forums like a child, IT WORKS.
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:22 pm
by bOing
Yeah, you big Zorf!!!
Re: DP6 stability
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:03 pm
by Sean Kenny
My friend
you may well be paid to do it (good luck to you), but what I'm driving at is that the kind of tracks count you get on a g4 are not exactly cutting edge.
I've still got my g4 as a dedicated server but I wouldn't dream of wheeling that out in front of a client.
When I say 'serious' I mean track count, not quality of audio or client, and more importantly it's mostly at high track counts that the problems start.
I'm looking for serious help for a serious user on an intel mac, not to have to sift through people telling me their abacus still works
Apologies if this offends
Sean Kenny
http://www.ten21.biz
kassonica wrote:Sean Kenny wrote:Moreover
anybody still using a DP4.61 on a laptop is not recording serious audio projects.
We call all run 10 or 15 tracks without problems!!!
Um do you mind.
We keep any insults to ourselves because a lot of here ARE PROFESSIONAL working people. It doesn't matter whether you use DP100 or DP3 if it gets the job done.
I got paid recently for a recording using DP4.61 on a G4 powerbook.
Not all the reports are bad my system is working very very well outside of some minor bugs and I've been using it A LOT.
Maybe because I look after and OPTIMIZE my OS and ask questions as a opposed to insulting people on forums like a child, IT WORKS.