IT'S HAPPENED - Look at the MOTU site!

[James Steele]

OK, I'm up stumbling around the house in the dark. Can't sleep. On the laptop, wait, what? MV2 is here? I'll have to double check this tomorrow when I'm sure I'm awake. Must be a dream. I'm still sleeping, I'm sure...

If you go to motu.com, you just might see a picture of Rod Serling!!

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the M5v2 Zone.

Ahhh... back when people smoked cigarettes on TV. In a weird way I sort of miss that.

[chrispick]

Ahhh... back when people smoked cigarettes on TV. In a weird way I sort of miss that.

Yeah, and when they boozed it up a lot too. You could make a drinking game out of all the times someone drinks alcohol on "Bewitched" -- and that was a family sitcom.

[monkey man]

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Letterman's doing his bit at least by drinking under the desk.

RCory, have you anything to say to the apester, eh?
Eh?....eh?.... huh?

It's ironic, but I'll bet you acquire a copy of Machy before I do.

[billf]

did anyone splurge on next day air?

I didn't even get that choice. The only "option" was UPS Standard.

[hugy]

The more I look, the better it gets!

It seems that you can add an effect to just a slice of a slice - similar to Stylus rmx? Am I understanding this right?

Yes you can.
You only need to DnD your REX to a part.
DnD convert to another part. It will create a new program with each slice
assigned to its own keygroup.
Then you can use filter or anything you want just like any other M5 keygroup.

You can save those sample too if you want to do some offline processing in another soft.

Pretty straightforward.

[James Steele]

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Letterman's doing his bit at least by drinking under the desk.

Did he give up the cigar habit after his bypass surgery? I remember sometimes if they cut back from a commercial break you almost caught him putting the cigar away under his desk. I heard he had a heavy habit and smoked a LOT of nice Cuban cigars. Now THAT get's expensive... a decent Cuban is upward of $20 isn't it. Heck... I was in a cigar shop not long ago in a semi-touristy area and they were WAY out of line.

God, I enjoy a stogey from time to time. And yes... I know tobacco is EVIL (cue the scary music)... but my goodness I just love the sensory pleasures of puffing a nice, quality hand-rolled cigar with a glass of Cabernet to go with it. (Yes... hours later there's a nasty taste in your mouth... but it's worth it!)

[RCory]

RCory, have you anything to say to the apester, eh?
Eh?....eh?.... huh?

It's ironic, but I'll bet you acquire a copy of Machy before I do.

I think I will get my copy before you: I didn't see "knows how to swim" as a feature in the list!

and: exuberant *sigh!*

[monkey man]

Did he give up the cigar habit after his bypass surgery? I remember sometimes if they cut back from a commercial break you almost caught him putting the cigar away under his desk. I heard he had a heavy habit and smoked a LOT of nice Cuban cigars.

I believe he did, Jimbo; good call.

... Now THAT get's expensive... a decent Cuban is upward of $20 isn't it. Heck... I was in a cigar shop not long ago in a semi-touristy area and they were WAY out of line.

Never had the pleasure, I'm afraid, but I did toke on some thick-smoked and flavoured "El Nasties" back in high school.

God, I enjoy a stogey from time to time. And yes... I know tobacco is EVIL (cue the scary music)... but my goodness I just love the sensory pleasures of puffing a nice, quality hand-rolled cigar with a glass of Cabernet to go with it. (Yes... hours later there's a nasty taste in your mouth... but it's worth it!)

Dave Allen used to puff away and drink Scotch whilst delivering his comedic ramblings, and I too miss that sort of thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Allen_(comedian)

From Wiki: His act was typified by a very relaxed, intimate style ••” he would sit on a chair, smoking and holding a glass of whiskey.

Little-known fact: Folks have smoked for thousands of years sans disease and early death.
In fact, smokers have been indistinguishable from their peers in every respect except, of course, for the smell of their breath.

You see, the body's designed to remove "soot" at the rate of 12 mm per minute through a system of ciliae in the trachea.
When you cough, this process is obviously accelerated greatly too.
If it weren't for this fact, barbecues and general city living would be impossible.
Simple carbon-based (read: burned plant matter) tar is easily and automatically removed.

Now, when it comes to the modern cigarette, we in our "infinite" wisdom add 3-4000 toxic, cancer-causing, acidifying, circulation-restricting, oxygen-inhibiting, predominantly synthetic chemicals to this grease.
Therein lies the problem; it's no longer a simple matter of removal, but one of all-round consequences that require detoxification at all levels and in all areas of the body.
This is why lung cancer only constitutes a fraction of the cancers caused by smoking. In fact, additional pressures/injuries/demands on some individuals' lungs are the reason for these cases, just as stresses elsewhere lead to localised cancers.
Contrary to popular interpretation, it's not the injury one might have received in high school that's responsible for pain in one's knee 20 years later, rather it's the body's lack of opportunity to rebuild effectively and cleanly that's to blame.
Stresses occur in all areas, the trick is to keep your blood/body clean enough so that toxic (acid) pockets don't over tax the already huge demand we place on our alkali reserves (bones, teeth and nails mainly).

FWIW, in days of yore, medicine smoking was, IMHO, a far superior system of administration to hyperdermic injection - at least as instantly effective, far less shocking to the body and less spiritually invasive.
Oh, and you couldn't catch nasty diseases as is the case where injection is concerned.

I only wanted to shed some light on the half-truths one perpetuates with blanket "smoking is evil" statements, as the modern cigarette seems to be the only yardstick when we, in all our wisdom, guage the efficacy of smoking.
It's been a frustrating journey watching the world's countries banning smoking based on the flawed assumption that it's all bad, when anyone puffing on dried, shredded tobacco leaves he may have grown in his backyard is enjoying a "harmless", personal addiction to nicotine, or the basic pleasure of in/exhaling thick air.
Many smoke herbs such as chamomile, colt's foot and so on and enjoy the relaxation, freer breathing and other benefits herbs can offer.
IMHO, those folks'll live longer than John Citizen.

Sermon over. Now everyone can duck out for a fag.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I enjoy a good smoke as well. But I don;t know how you guys tolerate that tobacco stuff. I did for 14 years and still have one every once in a while. But there so many other things to smoke that are actually good for you and your mind.

[James Steele]

Well, I guess I too should be careful here as this could wander into politics. It does not surprise me that tobacco became much more dangerous when people started adding chemicals and other additives to it. Personally, I enjoy a VERY occasional cigar... on the order of maybe one per month only, but it is a "comfort" habit, much like "comfort" food. The smell of burning tobacco can take me back to childhood and the smell of my maternal grandfather puffing on his pipe.

Oddly enough it wasn't tobacco that killed him. He had a problem with alcohol that hastened his departure. Oddly enough though, he had some financial means so he only got drunk on quality booze... no cheap, generic liquor in his house. Perhaps I'm engaging in urban myth, but I seem to recall his doctor telling my mother that part of the reason he hadn't kicked off earlier is that he drank a better quality booze... something about the cheap stuff that is worse on the body. I know that sounds like wishful thinking, but I remember something like that vaguely.

[James Steele]

I enjoy a good smoke as well. But I don;t know how you guys tolerate that tobacco stuff. I did for 14 years and still have one every once in a while. But there so many other things to smoke that are actually good for you and your mind.

I like the smell of a good cigar and the taste. You also generally don't inhale cigars. As for the other things people smoke, I'd prefer not too much discussion about that. Even though I'm not personally into popular tobacco alternatives, I do not judge those who enjoy them. Still, there are legal issues involved and I don't want to go there.

Also, sorry for the major OT hijacking of this thread. All I meant to originally say is that I sort of miss the non-PC days when you could see a grown-up, responsible adult smoking a cigarette or having a drink on television and it wasn't horrifying.

Remember too, that before it was hip, Telly Savalas played a detective (Kojak) who was actually trying to quit (or had quit) smoking, and so throughout the series his main character always had a "Tootsie Pop" in his mouth. It was a message that macho guys don't HAVE to smoke, and in hindsight it was ahead of its time. I have to believe Telly's personal convictions about that must have played a part. "Who loves ya, baby!"

[MIDI Life Crisis]

SNIFF SWIG PUFF - BEA ARTHUR & ROCK HUDSON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3VbSfQ3 ... /www.fanda

[James Steele]

I was just thinking... someone is going to trip when they Google "Telly Savalas" and UnicorNation comes up!

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I was just thinking... someone is going to trip when they Google "Telly Savalas" and UnicorNation comes up!

Let alone BEA ARTHUR & ROCK HUDSON!

[bongo_x]

james;

the price between shops and online specials is enormous.
check out cigars international and jr cigars.

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/
http://www.jrcigars.com/

get on the special mailing lists and they will send you some pretty good deals once a week. I've had good dealings with both, but usually go with CI as they seem to have the better deals lately.

as far as politics and cigars, jr is kinda the microsoft of cigars so some people are bothered by that. they have some good house brands, especially the jr ultimates. mmmmmm.....

I try to balance it by buying some little things, accessories, singles, etc. at my local shop and buying the specials in bulk from the online guys.

bb