DP Bug Database Participants -- I need three easy questions:

[GWJ]

Hi, all best.

Question 1.
First, using the scale below, describe yourself as a user: 3 (don't be shy!)

1 - I'm a Sunday DP driver
2 - I use it often, but I pretty much do the same things all the time, and I don't know [or don't care] that much about the rest of DP.
3 - I'm a pretty hard core hobbyist/semi-professional, and I secretly plan to produce a hit CD with DP one of these days. (we won't tell... it'll just be our secret)
4 - I'm a pro, and DP is involved in lot of what I do. I'm pretty knowledgeable about DP, but I'm not ashamed to ask questions.
5 - Balls to the wall, pedal to the metal; you can have my copy of DP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off my keyboards. I live and breathe this thing.

Question 2.
Secondly, let's describe Digital Performer as your latest active version feels to you. I'm not looking for trends over every version since 2.7 or even 4.12. I'm just looking at the current systems and bugs, mainly in DP5, or if you're not there yet, DP 4.61 or whatever you're using. This is subjective; it's how DP feels to YOU, not the next guy. If you want to describe TWO versions (as in a before and after scenario) then fill out the questionnaire twice, and state what changed. (drivers, DP version, etc.)

To me DP version 4.61 feels: 2
0 - Totally stable. Zero bugs. I love DP, and it loves me.
1 - A few inconsistencies, but DP is stable
2 - Yeah, yeah, I get the stuck note or occasional sudden quit, but I save often and everything is fine. Not a problem.
3 - Stuck notes, Crashes, Bounce to Disk problems, or other problems they seem to creep up a lot more often than I'd like, but I'm not about to abandon ship. DP's very usable, and I get my work done.
4 - I've had to learn to avoid certain activities in DP. They just cause me too many problems.
5 - DP is unusable for me. Notes stick, it crashes, I have reproducible bugs, and I've even thought seriously about switching to Logic or some other DAW (though I probably will stay with DP if they fix it).

Question 3.
The following scale will be used to describe the severity of your bugs and problems on the questions down below. Just look over the scale, then skip on down to the list of bugs, and rate each bug with a number from this scale.

NA - Does not apply to me (never used the function)
0 - Never had the problem
1 - I remember it, but it's been long ago
2 - Used to happen, but not anymore
3 - a few times per year
4 - happens rarely, but it's not a problem
5 - maybe once a month
6 - maybe twice a month
7 - This bug is really bugging me
8 - Distracting. I get my work done, but this is a problem.
9 - Seems like all the time, but not 100% reproducible
10 - All the time. 100% reproducible.

Rate the following with a number from 0 to 10, using the above scale. Please, I need a number by every one of these. If you don't put a number, I will assume 0. Feel free to add your own bugs if you don't see them here.

••• Random Sudden Quit: 4
••• Bounce To Disk: 0
••• Chronic Stuck Notes: 8
••• Audio Routing bugs: 0? (see other bugs)
••• Cue Mix Silent: NA
••• Crash Changing WindowSets: 0
••• Random VI Volume Changes: 0
••• Random Solo Changes: 0
••• MIDI Bursts: 4
••• Pitch Automation: 2
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes: 0
••• Clicking in monitor during input: 6
••• CPU Spiking: 4
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact: NA
••• Crash while working: 3
••• Clicks on Merge: 7
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback: 0
••• Lost Firewire Connection: 2
••• Lost PCI Connection: NA
••• MOTU Audio System quits: 4
••• MOTU MIDI System quits: 1
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate):
••• Other bugs (specify and rate): TO ADD/CHANGE EFFECTS PLUGINS ON AUDIO TRACKS - CAUSES SEQ TO BE UNABLE TO BE BE STOPPED UNTIL SOME TIME LATER: 10


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G4 15' Powerbook 1.67, 2G RAM, 10.3.9
DP 4.61, MX4v2, USB PS 1, 2, 3
M-AUDIO FW Solo, EDIROL PCR-30
RODE NT 1000

[emulatorloo]

Shooshie -- I am switching to DP 5 when I get a chance -- probably late this week early next. . .but here are my answers for now

3 - I'm a pretty hard core hobbyist/semi-professional, and I secretly plan to produce a hit CD with DP one of these days. (we won't tell... it'll just be our secret)

To me DP version 4.6.1 feels
1 - A few inconsistencies, but DP is stable
2 - Yeah, yeah, I get the stuck note or occasional sudden quit, but I save often and everything is fine. Not a problem.

NA - Does not apply to me (never used the function)
0 - Never had the problem
1 - I remember it, but it's been long ago
2 - Used to happen, but not anymore
3 - a few times per year
4 - happens rarely, but it's not a problem
5 - maybe once a month
6 - maybe twice a month
7 - This bug is really bugging me
8 - Distracting. I get my work done, but this is a problem.
9 - Seems like all the time, but not 100% reproducible
10 - All the time. 100% reproducible.[/color]

Rate the following with a number from 0 to 10, using the above scale. Please, I need a number by every one of these. If you don't put a number, I will assume 0. Feel free to add your own bugs if you don't see them here.

••• Random Sudden Quit: 1
••• Bounce To Disk: 0
••• Chronic Stuck Notes: 2 (hardware conflict)
••• Audio Routing bugs: 0
••• Cue Mix Silent: 0
••• Crash Changing WindowSets 0
••• Random VI Volume Changes 0
••• Random Solo Changes 0
••• MIDI Bursts 2 (hardware conflict)
••• Pitch Automation N/A
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes 0
••• Clicking in monitor during input 2 (hardware conflict)
••• CPU Spiking 2 (reset motherboard)
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact 0
••• Crash while working: 1
••• Clicks on Merge: 0
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback: 1 Driver Issue
••• Lost Firewire Connection: n/a
••• Lost PCI Connection: happened w 4.12 occasionaly not now. Driver?
••• MOTU Audio System quits: 4.12, not now. Drive issue?
••• MOTU MIDI System quits: 0
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate):
••• Other bugs (specify and rate)

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[tripit@earthlink.net]

This will take you less than 5 minutes. It's easy. It's just a matter of looking over my rating scales, and using my numbers to rate yourself, DP, and the bugs I've listed. We're almost there. Let's make this thing worthwhile for all the effort we've all put into it so far.

I've been working on this database of bugs. It's getting very big, but to make this info more usable for MOTU and for ourselves, I need to shade some of the data, because software this complex isn't just black or white. This won't take long, and it requires no research on your part; just your memory. If you will do this, it will make our data much more sensible. It really took getting each of your experiences to know what to ask. I couldn't have known what to put in this database without your input the 1st time around.

NOTE: If you want to answer these questions, but you didn't send me your info, go ahead and do it, but for it to be meaningful I'll need the info I asked for in the thread linked here.



Question 1.
First, using the scale below, describe yourself as a user: 4____ (don't be shy!)

1 - I'm a Sunday DP driver
2 - I use it often, but I pretty much do the same things all the time, and I don't know [or don't care] that much about the rest of DP.
3 - I'm a pretty hard core hobbyist/semi-professional, and I secretly plan to produce a hit CD with DP one of these days. (we won't tell... it'll just be our secret)
4 - I'm a pro, and DP is involved in lot of what I do. I'm pretty knowledgeable about DP, but I'm not ashamed to ask questions.
5 - Balls to the wall, pedal to the metal; you can have my copy of DP when you pry my cold, dead fingers off my keyboards. I live and breathe this thing.

Question 2.
Secondly, let's describe Digital Performer as your latest active version feels to you. I'm not looking for trends over every version since 2.7 or even 4.12. I'm just looking at the current systems and bugs, mainly in DP5, or if you're not there yet, DP 4.61 or whatever you're using. This is subjective; it's how DP feels to YOU, not the next guy. If you want to describe TWO versions (as in a before and after scenario) then fill out the questionnaire twice, and state what changed. (drivers, DP version, etc.)

To me DP version ____5_ feels:___3_
0 - Totally stable. Zero bugs. I love DP, and it loves me.
1 - A few inconsistencies, but DP is stable
2 - Yeah, yeah, I get the stuck note or occasional sudden quit, but I save often and everything is fine. Not a problem.
3 - Stuck notes, Crashes, Bounce to Disk problems, or other problems they seem to creep up a lot more often than I'd like, but I'm not about to abandon ship. DP's very usable, and I get my work done.
4 - I've had to learn to avoid certain activities in DP. They just cause me too many problems.
5 - DP is unusable for me. Notes stick, it crashes, I have reproducible bugs, and I've even thought seriously about switching to Logic or some other DAW (though I probably will stay with DP if they fix it).

Question 3.
The following scale will be used to describe the severity of your bugs and problems on the questions down below. Just look over the scale, then skip on down to the list of bugs, and rate each bug with a number from this scale.

NA - Does not apply to me (never used the function)
0 - Never had the problem
1 - I remember it, but it's been long ago
2 - Used to happen, but not anymore
3 - a few times per year
4 - happens rarely, but it's not a problem
5 - maybe once a month
6 - maybe twice a month
7 - This bug is really bugging me
8 - Distracting. I get my work done, but this is a problem.
9 - Seems like all the time, but not 100% reproducible
10 - All the time. 100% reproducible.

Rate the following with a number from 0 to 10, using the above scale. Please, I need a number by every one of these. If you don't put a number, I will assume 0. Feel free to add your own bugs if you don't see them here.

••• Random Sudden Quit:7
••• Bounce To Disk:0
••• Chronic Stuck Notes:3
••• Audio Routing bugs:0
••• Cue Mix Silent:0
••• Crash Changing WindowSets:6
••• Random VI Volume Changes:6
••• Random Solo Changes:0
••• MIDI Bursts:0
••• Pitch Automation:
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes:
••• Clicking in monitor during input:
••• CPU Spiking:
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact:
••• Crash while working:6
••• Clicks on Merge:
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback:0
••• Lost Firewire Connection:0
••• Lost PCI Connection:0
••• MOTU Audio System quits:0
••• MOTU MIDI System quits:0
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate): see below
••• Other bugs (specify and rate):7 wait for MIDI note/QT movie issue. 9 - Opening or loading Seqences causes CTD. 6 - Random corrupted prefs causes DAE error.

The END!

Thanks, guys and girls. That should do it for now. I may ask a few of you for more info, but basically this will finish it for me.


Shooshie

[buzzsmith]

Question 1.
First, using the scale below, describe yourself as a user: 4

Question 2.
To me DP version 4.5 feels: 1

Question 3.

NA - Does not apply to me (never used the function)
0 - Never had the problem
1 - I remember it, but it's been long ago
2 - Used to happen, but not anymore
3 - a few times per year
4 - happens rarely, but it's not a problem
5 - maybe once a month
6 - maybe twice a month
7 - This bug is really bugging me
8 - Distracting. I get my work done, but this is a problem.
9 - Seems like all the time, but not 100% reproducible
10 - All the time. 100% reproducible.

••• Random Sudden Quit: 6
••• Bounce To Disk: 0
••• Chronic Stuck Notes: 4
••• Audio Routing bugs: 0
••• Cue Mix Silent: NA
••• Crash Changing WindowSets: NA
••• Random VI Volume Changes: 0
••• Random Solo Changes: 0
••• MIDI Bursts: only when fast forwarding with some VI's
••• Pitch Automation: NA
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes: 0
••• Clicking in monitor during input: 0
••• CPU Spiking: 8 (with BFD primarily, especially if other VI's are running)
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact: NA
••• Crash while working: 1
••• Clicks on Merge: 0
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback: 1 (usually restart DP)
••• Lost Firewire Connection: NA
••• Lost PCI Connection: 1
••• MOTU Audio System quits: 1
••• MOTU MIDI System quits: 0
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate):
••• Other bugs (specify and rate):

[D.Compose]

What Bit Rate & Sample Format should be a consideration here. I'm always 24/44.1 (DAE DP5)

[excatcher]

Question 1.
First, using the scale below, describe yourself as a user: __4__
Question 2.
To me DP version __5___ feels:__1__
Question 3 (ratings).
••• Random Sudden Quit: 5
••• Bounce To Disk: 3
••• Chronic Stuck Notes: 4
••• Audio Routing bugs: 2
••• Cue Mix Silent: 0
••• Crash Changing WindowSets: 0
••• Random VI Volume Changes: 0
••• Random Solo Changes: 0
••• MIDI Bursts: 0
••• Pitch Automation: 0
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes: 0
••• Clicking in monitor during input: 0
••• CPU Spiking: 0
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact: 0
••• Crash while working: 6
••• Clicks on Merge: 0
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback: 0
••• Lost Firewire Connection: 0
••• Lost PCI Connection: 8
••• MOTU Audio System quits: 0
••• MOTU MIDI System quits: 0
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate): Bouncing if X-treme FX VI is active (10-all the time)
••• Other bugs (specify and rate): one minor bug I've always lived with: I have a custom (MIDI) keyboard command to advance one bar, but whenever I hit the key it takes me to an unrelated measure. I'll rate it an 8 when I'm flying.

Thanks so much for your hard work in gathering the data and for your dedication to making all our musical lives more enjoyable. Stable is good.

[zed]

Question 1.
First, using the scale below, describe yourself as a user: __4__

Question 2.
To me DP version __5___ feels:__2__

Question 3.

••• Random Sudden Quit: 4
••• Bounce To Disk: 0
••• Chronic Stuck Notes: 7
••• Audio Routing bugs: 0
••• Cue Mix Silent: NA
••• Crash Changing WindowSets: NA
••• Random VI Volume Changes: 4
••• Random Solo Changes: 0
••• MIDI Bursts: 0
••• Pitch Automation: 0
••• Mixing Board Automation Changes: 0
••• Clicking in monitor during input:
••• CPU Spiking: 0
••• Crash/Corrupt on Compact: NA
••• Crash while working: 4 (changing patches in SampleTank)
••• Clicks on Merge: 0
••• Temporary Digital Noise during playback: 0
••• Lost Firewire Connection: 0
••• Lost PCI Connection: 0
••• MOTU Audio System quits: 2 (when using Audacity)
••• MOTU MIDI System quits: 0
••• Crash on other specific functions (specify and rate): 4 (changing patches in SampleTank)
••• Other bugs (specify and rate):[/color] 7 (stuck notes)