DP 5 verdict for those who are scared to upgrage??

[Rush909]

the question I feel myself asking is "are there any bugs that EVERYONE is having"? I hear different bugs reported by different people, but nothing common or conclusive... is that a fair assessment or are there some concrete bugs that EVERYONE is having???

[sdfalk]

the question I feel myself asking is "are there any bugs that EVERYONE is having"? I hear different bugs reported by different people, but nothing common or conclusive... is that a fair assessment or are there some concrete bugs that EVERYONE is having???

Bounce to disk appears to be a problem for a few people,
myself included.

[Timeline]

When I hear of updates that fit my needs I will jump in.

We put one in there just for you Gary. You now have a switchable preference in DP5 so that soloed tracks will continue to follow mute automation (or not).

Prior to DP5, if you solo an audio track, any mute automation in the track is disabled and you hear the track regardless of whether there is mute automation or not. No other forms of automation are affected by solo mode. The thinking behind this was that if you solo a track, you expect to hear it.


Magic Dave

Having been critical of DP lately, I would like to say that this is a wonderful addition..thank you!

Dave,
This is VERY nice news indeed and regardless of who it was done for I think you have truly improved DP work flow as a result of its inclusion. Hats off to you & MOTU and a respectful bow. Thank you.

If you would be so kind to explain the input core monitoring/main mixer switching issue I and many others would be grateful as well. Progress, issues and Apple roadblocks, anything that would explain why this has not been applied on any DAW except Nuendo on PC. I'm plain confused and frustrated about it, I have to admit.

[williemyers]

As a workaround, I started using blank MIDI tracks as labels (with titles like ••••••GUITARS••••••), and color-coded each section of my tracklist. I'm now in the process of converting these over to track folders (and rethinking some of my organization a bit.)

What's trippy is that I'm sure there are people from the old-school Performer days who have wanted track folders for the last 20 years.

You betcha. I should do a screenshot some day of a track list of something like 320 MIDI tracks, divided into sections just as you described with dividers like:

===Bells 8va/16 BAR 32===

And some of those were created in the day when the Tracks Overview window just consisted of opaque rectangles. You couldn't see what was in those tracks without opening each one. Anyway, yes, track folders have been long overdue, and their arrival is good news at last. But I think back on the 20 years in which I could have used them... sigh...


Shooshie

let me chime in if I may and comment that, while "Track Folders" are a fine graphic addition to DP's GUI, they are...just that...a "graphic" addition.

Now, what would *REALLY* be useful, would be to make them savable in to some sort of library that you could call up in to any new DP session. Let me xpound.

When I do strings in an orchestral session, I'm often using about 40 MIDI tracks, just for the strings. They would be the five normal orchestral string divisions (Vln I, Vln II, Vla, Cli, DB) done as "legato", "marcato", "trem", "pizz", "efx", etc. Each MIDI track would have the track name and it's assignment.

So, now with Track Folders, I can drop each group of five in to it's own Track Folder ("Str/Leg", "Str/Mar", "Str/Pizz", etc.), then drop all those track folders in to a master "Strings" Track Folder. As I said, it's great for cluttering/unclutteirng up my Tracks Overview Editor. *BUT*, if I could save those Track Folders someplace and just bring/drop them in to new sessions - - depending on which string groupings I might need - - *that* would be a killer implementation of Track Folders.

I can do it as a workaround by "Loading" a previous session and dragging those empty tracks in, or setting up tons of templates with preassigned tracks, but if I could just grab Folders in to a new session, that would be a blessing. I could do the same with my brass, winds, perc. etc.

just a thought

[Timeline]

Hi Willie,

Did you try using the clipping window with a track folder yet?

[dogBoy]

Just A question. How do people feel about the new editing functions?
They seem very useful.

[Shooshie]

let me chime in if I may and comment that, while "Track Folders" are a fine graphic addition to DP's GUI, they are...just that...a "graphic" addition.

Now, what would *REALLY* be useful, would be to make them savable in to some sort of library that you could call up in to any new DP session. Let me xpound.

When I do strings in an orchestral session, I'm often using about 40 MIDI tracks, just for the strings. They would be the five normal orchestral string divisions (Vln I, Vln II, Vla, Cli, DB) done as "legato", "marcato", "trem", "pizz", "efx", etc. Each MIDI track would have the track name and it's assignment.

So, now with Track Folders, I can drop each group of five in to it's own Track Folder ("Str/Leg", "Str/Mar", "Str/Pizz", etc.), then drop all those track folders in to a master "Strings" Track Folder. As I said, it's great for cluttering/unclutteirng up my Tracks Overview Editor. *BUT*, if I could save those Track Folders someplace and just bring/drop them in to new sessions - - depending on which string groupings I might need - - *that* would be a killer implementation of Track Folders.

I can do it as a workaround by "Loading" a previous session and dragging those empty tracks in, or setting up tons of templates with preassigned tracks, but if I could just grab Folders in to a new session, that would be a blessing. I could do the same with my brass, winds, perc. etc.

just a thought

I think that's a fantastic idea, willie. Let ME add that track folders do serve at least a small useful function in addition to organizing tracks: you can use them to turn tracks on and off in the MIDI Edit Window, and to show/hide entire groups of tracks at once in all the windows that have a track list to choose from. But as williemyers has pointed out, they could do so much more. Oh well, that's what future versions are for. That's the kind of functionality I like to see added in the Tracks Overview Window.

Shooshie

[twistedtom]

Just got DP5 friday, played with it a bunch this week end. I had one crash, then I did a repair premmissions and ran MacJanitor. After that every thing seemed to run smoother and my VI's even took less cpu power. I came from 4.12 so the things new to 4.5 were also cool. I like the freeze tracks with the VI's it makes it so that I can run a bunch of them. I like the consolidated windows. The meeter bridge will be usefull.
I did not have any VI before so this is a treat for me. I have 8 synths and sound moduals any ways.

[genel]

let me chime in if I may and comment that, while "Track Folders" are a fine graphic addition to DP's GUI, they are...just that...a "graphic" addition.

Now, what would *REALLY* be useful, would be to make them savable in to some sort of library that you could call up in to any new DP session. Let me xpound.

When I do strings in an orchestral session, I'm often using about 40 MIDI tracks, just for the strings. They would be the five normal orchestral string divisions (Vln I, Vln II, Vla, Cli, DB) done as "legato", "marcato", "trem", "pizz", "efx", etc. Each MIDI track would have the track name and it's assignment.

So, now with Track Folders, I can drop each group of five in to it's own Track Folder ("Str/Leg", "Str/Mar", "Str/Pizz", etc.), then drop all those track folders in to a master "Strings" Track Folder. As I said, it's great for cluttering/unclutteirng up my Tracks Overview Editor. *BUT*, if I could save those Track Folders someplace and just bring/drop them in to new sessions - - depending on which string groupings I might need - - *that* would be a killer implementation of Track Folders.

I can do it as a workaround by "Loading" a previous session and dragging those empty tracks in, or setting up tons of templates with preassigned tracks, but if I could just grab Folders in to a new session, that would be a blessing. I could do the same with my brass, winds, perc. etc.

just a thought

You can use track folders just like clippings. I have pre-built about two dozen string folders nested in a master ••œEmpty Stings••