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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_design
Sounds very cool!
I'm struggling with the concept and how it could be implemented in the next version of DP.
Hey "ata", could you explain more?
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Re: Suggestions for next DP update

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I want to see MusicXML import. DP 9 added .xml export and that was a start.

Logic and other DAWs have had it for awhile, now. 3.0 at least — 3.1 would be better.
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It'd be great if dragging one sequence into another respected their sequence start times.

At the moment, if you drag one into another, they both start at beginning of the sequence and you have to manually put stuff where it's supposed to go, including separately copy-pasting the conductor track to the right location so the two conductor tracks don't end up intermingled. Seems needlessly laborious to me. If I've already specified the start time of the sequence once in bars and/or timecode, why not automatically place it at that location?

The other way to do this right now is the process using the song editor that's described in a video somewhere. That has worked, but it's also error-prone and has sometimes scrambled my MIDI assignments.
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I would be elated for these three updates...

A Fader width option that conforms to a standard 24 channel banking in 1920x1080. DP's shows something like 32.5 faders in 1920 and 36.5 in 2560. This make no sense other then cram as many in as possible. DP should be compatible width wise with any controller hardware or touch screen. Touch screens have become cheap and are a significant upgrade to working in an ergonomic set up. Not having multi touch is not a deal breaker. Even single touch control is a big step up.

Having the option to break up the solo, mute, rec input from the automation like is done with inserts, sends etc. would be great. That big block of functions is redundant with hardware and touchscreens.

COLORS OVER THE ENTIRE CHANNEL STRIP OR AN OPTION TO PUT A COLOR BAR ANYWHERE IN THE CHANNEL SPACE OR AT LEAST AT THE TOP. This is the lamest function DP has for screen real estate and by far the EASIEST to fix. Not having colors at the top just makes working with any controller more difficult. Come on guys this is an easy one.

Pop out faders for sends like PT uses instead of the current "itsy bitsy teenie weenie" rotary controls for volume pre/mute in the mixer view or the horizontal slider at the top in the SE window. Those are all OLD IN THE TOOTH designs that take up screen real estate and force us to use the mouse... or as I call it the monkey...

if I had two more it's

1) For some reason DP doesn't send track show / hide data out the Mackie control ports. I am sure they can add that in.

2) VCA's

If Dave Das is still at MOTU I hope he sees this post...
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Biggest one for me is more render options. As it stands freezing tracks is the way to render individual tracks to disc, there's no option like 'render selected' etc. The process of doing this in DP compared to DAWs with options for rendering is beyond trivial, a total PITA compared.

I'm more that curious about what's going on with DP 10? it's a long stretch with no information on what MOTU are planning, they didn't announce jack at NAMM this year, and they aren't listed at this Summers NAMM...
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Michael Canavan wrote:Biggest one for me is more render options. As it stands freezing tracks is the way to render individual tracks to disc, there's no option like 'render selected' etc. The process of doing this in DP compared to DAWs with options for rendering is beyond trivial, a total PITA compared.

I'm more that curious about what's going on with DP 10? it's a long stretch with no information on what MOTU are planning, they didn't announce jack at NAMM this year, and they aren't listed at this Summers NAMM...
I remember like 20 year ago when they just dropped composer. Nothing was ever said and if you ask them they would tell you it is still a product. That's just dysfunctional... hahaha
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1. Mix bus compression - it would be great to have the capacity to compress the whole track with a very low ratio 1:1.5 say, from a low threshold, with automatic attack and release times. This could be implemented as a new plug in or as an enhancement to the existing dynamics plug in

2. Track selection for Meter Bridge - enable track selection in the meter bridge as in the mixer window, with optional matching so that the mixer bridge can default to the tracks selected in the tracks window like the mixer can.

3. Mid-Side plug-in slots - a facility for use on the mix bus that splits the stereo signal into mid and side slots so that I could use other EQs to process mid-side, eg my UA Pultecs.
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The ability to add metadata when bouncing down to mp3, and also to hear it as if it was an mp3 beforehand.
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Gone To Lunch wrote:1. Mix bus compression - it would be great to have the capacity to compress the whole track with a very low ratio 1:1.5 say, from a low threshold, with automatic attack and release times. This could be implemented as a new plug in or as an enhancement to the existing dynamics plug in
How would this be different from putting the appropriate compressor on the master track or on an aux before the master?
Gone To Lunch wrote:2. Track selection for Meter Bridge - enable track selection in the meter bridge as in the mixer window, with optional matching so that the mixer bridge can default to the tracks selected in the tracks window like the mixer can.
Completely with you on that one. I'm surprised it wasn't set up that way in the first place. Also should be able to align and lock it to the mixer.
Gone To Lunch wrote: 3. Mid-Side plug-in slots - a facility for use on the mix bus that splits the stereo signal into mid and side slots so that I could use other EQs to process mid-side, eg my UA Pultecs.
Another good one. A few of the MAS plugins have a mid-side option, but a utility plugin that works in both directions would be helpful. The basics are already in the MidSide processor. There are 3rd party alternatives, e.g., https://tekit-audio.com/products/effects/mscontrol/
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The New PreSonus DAW was released today May 22. DP should have some great things in store for us...

https://www.presonus.com/products/Studi ... iUpCTZ_Lk8
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waxman wrote:The New PreSonus DAW was released today May 22. DP should have some great things in store for us...

https://www.presonus.com/products/Studi ... iUpCTZ_Lk8
Auto Chord detection is good. But do I read correctly that you need the "pro" version to be able to use 3rd party plugins? Even GarageBand does that.
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bayswater wrote:
Gone To Lunch wrote:1. Mix bus compression - it would be great to have the capacity to compress the whole track with a very low ratio 1:1.5 say, from a low threshold, with automatic attack and release times. This could be implemented as a new plug in or as an enhancement to the existing dynamics plug in
How would this be different from putting the appropriate compressor on the master track or on an aux before the master?
What in this instance is 'the appropriate compressor' ?

I haven't seen one that allows both very low ratio and auto atttack and release ?

Or is that because they are not compatible with how a compressor actually works, ie mutually exclusive ?
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waxman wrote:
Having the option to break up the solo, mute, rec input from the automation like is done with inserts, sends etc. would be great. That big block of functions is redundant with hardware and touchscreens.

COLORS OVER THE ENTIRE CHANNEL STRIP OR AN OPTION TO PUT A COLOR BAR ANYWHERE IN THE CHANNEL SPACE OR AT LEAST AT THE TOP. This is the lamest function DP has for screen real estate and by far the EASIEST to fix. Not having colors at the top just makes working with any controller more difficult. Come on guys this is an easy one.

Pop out faders for sends like PT uses instead of the current "itsy bitsy teenie weenie" rotary controls for volume pre/mute in the mixer view or the horizontal slider at the top in the SE window. Those are all OLD IN THE TOOTH designs that take up screen real estate and force us to use the mouse... or as I call it the monkey...
Yes, yes and yes to each of these !
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Gone To Lunch wrote:What in this instance is 'the appropriate compressor' ?

I haven't seen one that allows both very low ratio and auto atttack and release ?

Or is that because they are not compatible with how a compressor actually works, ie mutually exclusive ?
Well, it would be whatever compressor does what you want. The question was more about why it would matter where you put it in the chain as long as it's on the master bus, or an aux before that.

About compressors with a low ratio, that would be just about any compressor with a ratio control, wouldn't it? And for auto attack and release, IIRC, there are some at PSP Audioware, and Stillwell, and probably some others I can't recall at the moment. If you google Auto Attack and Release, there are lot of hits.
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bayswater wrote: About compressors with a low ratio, that would be just about any compressor with a ratio control, wouldn't it? And for auto attack and release, IIRC, there are some at PSP Audioware, and Stillwell, and probably some others I can't recall at the moment. If you google Auto Attack and Release, there are lot of hits.
Yes, but those I have seen thus far mostly have set ratios, like 2, 4, 10 etc not 1.2, 1.5.

Thanks for the tip, I have indeed found lots of hits for attack & release
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