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timriley wrote:Gsi also have another nice tape delay.. The GS-201 Tape Echo (costs only 19 euros)........... Has a demo too, so you can check if it works first. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=26
Woah... coolness... gotta check this out. I feel my wallet about to get lighter!
timriley wrote:Gsi also have another nice tape delay.. The GS-201 Tape Echo (costs only 19 euros)........... Has a demo too, so you can check if it works first. http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=26
Woah... coolness... gotta check this out. I feel my wallet about to get lighter!
KAAACHIIIING!!!
Yipes... I hate to say this, but I found a bug with the GS-201 in DP 6.01 that makes me a bit nervous to use this. The problem is, it's one of those delay plugs that doesn't completely dump its buffer after you stop playback. Subsequent playback empties out the remaining bit of delayed audio that would have played had you not stopped playback.
That in and of itself, isn't insurmountable. I've used plugs where before I bounce to disk, I locate to the beginning and hit play just enough to dump the buffer of the plug and then do a bounce to disk and it's fine. However, I tried doing it with this plug and after I started my sequence and thought the "waiting audio" from the plug had been emptied (the plug was totally silent on an empty track), once playback reached a soundbite on the track to be processed with GS-201, I could hear more of the residual audio start to play along with the correct soundbite.
If others can verify, that would be good. I've seen this sort of buffer-dumping issue with a lot of AU delay plugs by smaller companies.
Yeah I had noticed the buffer dumping thing too.. Ive mostly been using this plug for very short delays. I did use a longer setting for a very subtle kind of ambience in one track i did.. Just to add a bit of interest to the sound... I guess one workaround would be to save your plugin setting just before bouncing, delete the plug from the mixer and then reinitiate it before bouncing using your preset.. Not ideal though i agree.... I can see why you would be nervous with it........ Sorry James!
Yeah I had noticed the buffer dumping thing too.. Ive mostly been using this plug for very short delays. I did use a longer setting for a very subtle kind of ambience in one track i did.. Just to add a bit of interest to the sound... I guess one workaround would be to save your plugin setting just before bouncing, delete the plug from the mixer and then reinitiate it before bouncing using your preset.. Not ideal though i agree.... I can see why you would be nervous with it........ Sorry James!
Hey that's a good workaround though! I hadn't thought of that... doh! I agree though that it sounds really good... way more like a real guitar delay that I've grown accustomed to. I used to own an Echoplex "back in the day."
James Steele wrote:I hate to say this, but I found a bug with the GS-201 in DP 6.01 that makes me a bit nervous to use this. The problem is, it's one of those delay plugs that doesn't completely dump its buffer after you stop playback. Subsequent playback empties out the remaining bit of delayed audio that would have played had you not stopped playback. [snip]
If others can verify, that would be good. I've seen this sort of buffer-dumping issue with a lot of AU delay plugs by smaller companies.
James, why don't you alert Guido to the problem? He's very receptive to constructive views like this one.
spitfire31 wrote:James, why don't you alert Guido to the problem? He's very receptive to constructive views like this one.
I received a reply from Guido last night. Here's what he said:
Hi,
I'm not sure this is really a bug in the plugin.
This may happen if the host stops the audio engine when the sequence
is stopped. Please check if this is the case with DP. The audio engine
should be always on even when the playback is stopped, so the effects
can work as regular external gear, which is always receiving,
processing, and outputting audio all the time.
Some "serious" sequencers have an option for this, you can choose to
keep the audio engine always on or turn it on only when a sequence is
playing. Also, there could be an option that enables audio effects
only if audio is coming from a recorded track or from an external
source.
It seems that he says this is not a bug and a problem with DP. I'll see if I want to spend any time researching this and convincing MOTU and/or Guido there's a problem.
I think we might have opened up a can of worms here james....haha.
However, i may have figured out another work-around..
If you set up the delay on an aux track with a virtual instrument bussed to that aux track also, the buffer dumping problem seems to go away..
For instance. Lets say you have an audio track with a recorded guitar part on it bussed to an aux track with a gs-201. If you press play, the delay starts as it should but if you press stop the delay stops! Now set up an instrument track and put, lets say, truepianos on that track and bus it to the same delay aux track as the guitar. Press play and stop and the delay continues after playback has been stopped.....
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timriley wrote:KR-Research have released a new delay plugin as part of their (FS) free-series... The KR-Delay FS .. Just tried it just now and it seems really nice.. Clean sounding, simple, easy to use...... However!!!
On my system, I also have their free reverb, KR-Reverb FS.. After I added the delay to my componants folder and loaded DP, the reverb doesn't appear in my plugin list anymore.
I thought there was something funny happenning when DP didn't do an audio-unit validation on the delay plug-in.
So it seems that, at present, you can't use both plugins at the same time. The KR-Delay FS seems to override the KR-Reverb FS somehow. If you want the reverb back, you have to quit DP and remove the delay from your componants folder.. Reload DP, et voila! The reverb is back..
Anyone else experience anything similar? I'll contact KR-Research at some point and let them know I guess..
I emailed K-Research and they said they're going to release an update in the next few days that addresses this problem...
