DP 10.13

[waterstrum]

"Added shortcuts for scaling from 100% to 200% in 25% increments to the scaling window menu."
If you want to add shortcuts for these, note the word "scale" does not appear in the command. It appears in the "Other Edit" section of the Commands and the command names are simply 100%, 125%, etc.

Thanks!
I'm so happy to be able to have "scale" available.
In prior versions, it would crash my whole DP enchilada.
I consider it to be a new feature.
Thanks for referring me to the "Other Edit" section.
I suspect I will be assigning keys to these functions.
Great info!

[Phil O]

...Does this mean we can delete the MAS plugins in the Library folders?

As far as I can tell, this folder is no longer being used. I moved mine to the desktop and DP still works fine, then moved it to the trash. Everything still working.

Your friendly neighborhood Phil

[bayswater]

...Does this mean we can delete the MAS plugins in the Library folders?

As far as I can tell, this folder is no longer being used. I moved mine to the desktop and DP still works fine, then moved it to the trash. Everything still working.

Your friendly neighborhood Phil

Thanks Phil. I suppose there is no need to keep the folder, even empty, unless a MAS version of VEP is being used.

[kurtl]

Unless you use an older version of DP like 9.

[Michael Canavan]

...Does this mean we can delete the MAS plugins in the Library folders?

As far as I can tell, this folder is no longer being used. I moved mine to the desktop and DP still works fine, then moved it to the trash. Everything still working.

Your friendly neighborhood Phil

Thanks Phil. I suppose there is no need to keep the folder, even empty, unless a MAS version of VEP is being used.

I've got VEP, UVI Workstation, and Audio Ease plug ins in the MAS folder so yeah IMO not a good idea to get rid if the folder itself.

[bayswater]

I've got VEP, UVI Workstation, and Audio Ease plug ins in the MAS folder so yeah IMO not a good idea to get rid if the folder itself.

Didn't know there was a MAS version of UVI.

[mikehalloran]

I've got VEP, UVI Workstation, and Audio Ease plug ins in the MAS folder so yeah IMO not a good idea to get rid if the folder itself.

Didn't know there was a MAS version of UVI.

The Get Info shows a build date of Nov 2014 and version 2.5.12 for MAS version of UVI Workstation. I don't think it's being used anymore unless it's by MachFive.

OTOH, seven of the MOTU libraries in the MAS folder have January 30, 2020 modification dates. I'm leaving those alone.

[bayswater]

OTOH, seven of the MOTU libraries in the MAS folder have January 30, 2020 modification dates. I'm leaving those alone.

??

I'm seeing it the other way around. I have the 2020 files in the Application bundle in Contents>MacOS>Plugins. They're the things that support AU and VST.

In the Library>Plugins>MAS folder, I have nothing newer than 2019, and the AU and VST support bundles are not there at all.

[Phil O]

same here

[mikehalloran]

OTOH, seven of the MOTU libraries in the MAS folder have January 30, 2020 modification dates. I'm leaving those alone.

??

I'm seeing it the other way around. I have the 2020 files in the Application bundle in Contents>MacOS>Plugins. They're the things that support AU and VST.

In the Library>Plugins>MAS folder, I have nothing newer than 2019, and the AU and VST support bundles are not there at all.

Yes, that's how they look in my Contents>MacOS>Plugins, too.

No idea why Library/Audio/Plugins/MAS looks the way it does nor do I care. DP 10.13 works and I've created 20 new projects over the weekend.

Time to get back to work.

[bayswater]

Nevertheless, it suggests we don't need to MAS folder in the Library any more.

[mwand]

Personally, I love QoL updates. Don't need new whistles and bells, just fix the ones that are already there. Thanks, MOTU.

[mhschmieder]

Strangely though, an old bug came back with this update, and I can't make it go away by switching chunks, tracks, actions, etc. My recollection is that when the bug occurred early in DP10, a different work order could make it go away.

Setting note velocity to randomize within a range (something I do with notation-based placeholder tracking), sets the stated velocity for Note On and the randomization occurs in Note Off. It matters not what you selected or the work order, switching chunks to bootstrap it out of some stuck state, etc.

Unfortunately, this bug is a show-stopper for me, for anything where I am starting strictly from notation.

The other weird thing is that the Quickscribe editor has a smaller ghost note image while using the mouse to enter notes, and it obscures where the mouse is but actually is a more accurate location than the normal size note icon. This too greatly slows down notation based work.

I'm not sure yet if this is otherwise a generally faster performing version of DP, as I am pretty much working non-stop at my new east coast startup company and only launched DP long enough for a quick sanity check on the latest update while doing a super-rudimentary mockup of some music I wrote in my head while driving 3100 miles to my new job a few weeks ago.

Not sure when I'll be back to regular DP work as I only brought my computer and headphones with me and had to buy a two-channel Focusrite Scarlett interface in order to work at 96 kHz (most of my projects), but I do placeholder work at 48 kHz so I don't yet know if this bug also affects 96 kHz projects (not sure why it would, for a MIDI track that isn't engaged or routed yet).

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I've had a few DP 10.13 problems. When a movie is present, I can't access the HELP run items. DP hangs with partially drawn screens. It eventually recovers. The workaround is to close the movie window. This is a bug that was quashed in DP 10 and 10.11, but after the update it reappeared. Weird. Now I'm beginning to suspect it's something MOTU is installing. Time will tell (or not).

Also had my first crash by simply applying a fade. Transport stopped. Not a big deal since every new version of DP has a crash or two just after installing. Kind of a right of passage, or puberty, perhaps. Only lost about 5 minutes of work.

I'm in a more complex project to test this version. Film score for a short horror flick. It'll be broadcast this Sunday. Details if I remember to post them. Gotta get back. I'm doing the entire soundtrack. Dialogue editing/mixing from multiple sources (thank you COVID), sound design, music, final mix. So it'll be a good workout for the update. So far so good.

[Michael Canavan]

Yeah, I've noticed a few bugs as well. GUI stuff mainly. Here's hoping for another fixit update soon.