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Re: Does DP 8 have mute MIDI notes yet?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:50 pm
by cuttime
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:... and I tried and could not find a definitive section that spells that feature out.

Are you sure there's a manual? :rofl:
Wow, old dog new tricks. It helps if you have the info bars visible at the top of the editor (the ones with the circled letter). I think that graphical info bar was new in DP6, and the only really good explanation I read of it was in a DP6 "What's new" pdf that came with that version. I'll see if I can dig it up later. I believe it was the "Selection" window feature it discussed.

Re: Does DP 8 have mute MIDI notes yet?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:53 am
by nk_e
Shooshie,

Like you I have seen this question of " mute MIDI notes" come up over the years. And I have seen you graciously offer your work around. However, you are not suggesting that the work around obviates the need for the feature, correct? (if so, I have to ask: have you ever used another DAW's mute note feature?)

It's a small thing admittedly, but being able to do this "natively" IS a real time saver and for someone like myself (not a skilled composer to say the least), it would be a helpful feature.

Re: Does DP 8 have mute MIDI notes yet?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:52 am
by toodamnhip
nk_e wrote:Shooshie,

Like you I have seen this question of " mute MIDI notes" come up over the years. And I have seen you graciously offer your work around. However, you are not suggesting that the work around obviates the need for the feature, correct? (if so, I have to ask: have you ever used another DAW's mute note feature?)

It's a small thing admittedly, but being able to do this "natively" IS a real time saver and for someone like myself (not a skilled composer to say the least), it would be a helpful feature.
Shoosh is not suggesting MIDI mute should not be adopted. He is saying that we don;t have it as much as we all wish we did have it, and thus, should learn to work around the problem until MOTU makes a MIDI mute feature....
Right Shoosh? :D :D :D :D :D

Re: Does DP 8 have mute MIDI notes yet?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:37 am
by Shooshie
toodamnhip wrote:
nk_e wrote:Shooshie,

Like you I have seen this question of " mute MIDI notes" come up over the years. And I have seen you graciously offer your work around. However, you are not suggesting that the work around obviates the need for the feature, correct? (if so, I have to ask: have you ever used another DAW's mute note feature?)

It's a small thing admittedly, but being able to do this "natively" IS a real time saver and for someone like myself (not a skilled composer to say the least), it would be a helpful feature.
Shoosh is not suggesting MIDI mute should not be adopted. He is saying that we don;t have it as much as we all wish we did have it, and thus, should learn to work around the problem until MOTU makes a MIDI mute feature....
Right Shoosh? :D :D :D :D :D
toodamnhip is correct. That's the way I am about nearly all features and work-arounds. If you wait for MOTU to deliver your tool, you're going to waste a lot of time. I have dozens of workarounds for various things in various circumstances, and use them all as the need arises. What works in one situation is ineffective in another. You just have to kind of keep thinking outside the box, using the tools that are there sometimes in unexpected ways. These things came to me while working with the clock ticking. While a client would want a particular process or edit done over and over, something that took a lot more time than it should, I would just imagine ways to make it faster. The Scratch Track idea came up a lot -- I used it for a lot of things besides muting.

No, I'd love it if MOTU gave us a MIDI Mute Tool. The MIDI mutes can get very confusing, especially if you happen to leave on the Automation Record while hitting the mute button a lot. Whoa! That's always fun to unravel. So, to avoid that sort of thing, I just dragged selections or regions into a scratch track which could be turned off. When I decided to put it back, it was a quick, simple operation to grab those in the Tracks Overview and slide them back up to their track. Takes about 2 seconds.

But I'll be as happy as the next person when MOTU finally makes the Mute Tool apply equally to MIDI.

Shooshie

Re: Does DP 8 have mute MIDI notes yet?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:39 pm
by Timeline
Why also do some MIDI faders not adjust in the mix? Is this also another crazy MIDI issue related to mute? I have so long forgotten mute in MIDI and just mix and mute the VI in real time now that it's solid. Still in 7.24 here