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Bennie Sims wrote:And in Logic Pro the bridge works perfectly.

Regarding using VEPro5 to run audio to plug-ins - okay, I can see this
need if you want to run in 64-bit mode and run some legacy 32-bit plug-ins.

If you're running DP8 in 32-bit mode, there is absolutely no reason to
use the Input Event plug-in to run audio into plug-ins in VEPro 5.
Even older Intel MacPros should be able to run plenty of plug-ins in DP8
without need of a bridge.

David Polich wrote:Regarding using VEPro5 to run audio to plug-ins - okay, I can see this
need if you want to run in 64-bit mode and run some legacy 32-bit plug-ins.

If you're running DP8 in 32-bit mode, there is absolutely no reason to
use the Input Event plug-in to run audio into plug-ins in VEPro 5.
Even older Intel Mac Pros should be able to run plenty of plug-ins in DP8
without need of a bridge.

DP 8-32bit on my machine isn't running very well totally spiking the cpu which I have seen quite a few posts of people having the same problem. 64 bit version works fine though and I would love to use it except certain plugs I like are still 32 bit.

James Steele wrote:

Bennie Sims wrote:And in Logic Pro the bridge works perfectly.

Very funny James!!! I do hate Logic but the bridge does work!!

Bennie Sims wrote:

James Steele wrote:

Bennie Sims wrote:And in Logic Pro the bridge works perfectly.

Very funny James!!! I do hate Logic but the bridge does work!!

I'm sure it works generally, but from what I hear, there's been a lot of buzz about it being sketchy and not working for everything. Which is okay... hard to expect it to be perfect. Still, I don't believe MOTU is obligated to pick up the slack for plug-in developers that don't keep up, or provide a solution for companies that have gone out of business. A bridge is nice, but I don't think any DAW developer is obligated to provide one and that's certainly not a make-or-break issue IMHO.

Bennie Sims wrote:

David Polich wrote:Regarding using VEPro5 to run audio to plug-ins - okay, I can see this
need if you want to run in 64-bit mode and run some legacy 32-bit plug-ins.

If you're running DP8 in 32-bit mode, there is absolutely no reason to
use the Input Event plug-in to run audio into plug-ins in VEPro 5.
Even older Intel Mac Pros should be able to run plenty of plug-ins in DP8
without need of a bridge.

DP 8-32bit on my machine isn't running very well totally spiking the cpu which I have seen quite a few posts of people having the same problem. 64 bit version works fine though and I would love to use it except certain plugs I like are still 32 bit.

I'm having the opposite experience - DP8 working fine in 32-bit (and 64, even though I normally use it in 32-bit) on both my Quadcore 2010 MacPro
and 2009 MacBook, running 10.6.8.

Seems a mystery as to why so many people are having different experiences...

VEPro 5 works great as a bridge. Forget JBridge, get VEPro 5. You won't
regret it.

Does anyone know if either works with the Antares EVO plugins?

I've traded a few emails with João on jBridgeM on it's use with DP 8. He sent me a revised install package in reply to a crash log.

With the new version, I've been able to get all Crysonic, PSP, and a few older 32 bit plugins working. Among the Korg legacy plugins, Wavestation and MDE-X are working, but M1 is not. For IKM, CSR Hall and Sampletank 2 are working, but Philharmonik, SampleTron, and SonikSynth are not.

I've provided João with additional crash reports, and hope to get the rest of the VIs working.

bayswater wrote:I've traded a few emails with João on jBridgeM on it's use with DP 8. He sent me a revised install package in reply to a crash log.

With the new version, I've been able to get all Crysonic, PSP, and a few older 32 bit plugins working. Among the Korg legacy plugins, Wavestation and MDE-X are working, but M1 is not. For IKM, CSR Hall and Sampletank 2 are working, but Philharmonik, SampleTron, and SonikSynth are not.

I've provided João with additional crash reports, and hope to get the rest of the VIs working.

when you say working, do you mean also bouncing ok?
so far all my 32bit plugs work in 64 (waves, altiverb6), but its when i'm bouncing that it crashes.

No, all I've done so far is loaded them and played with the controls at bit. I need to get the IKM stuff working before I land on this as a solution.

Have you tried tweaking any of the options in the Auxhost windows to see if that fixes the bounce problem?

From the latest crash logs I sent to JF, it happens that the VST scan failures with Philharmonik, and presumably SonicSynth, SampleTron (and M1) happen with the plugins themselves, not with jBridgeM. These also fail the VST scan in DP8 launched in 32 bit mode without bridging, both under 10.6.8 and 10.8.2. IKM has been notified.

However, I think the problem is more likely with DP's implementation of VST, than with IKM or Korg, because I have been able to get the VSTs for all of these working in 32 bit mode in DSP-Quattro.

I paid for jbridge but got Bidule working. It's a much better program IMO so I'm staying with PB. Just sane.

If I can get jBridge working I'll stick with that -- it's transparent once set up. And, as per the latest tests, the problems appear to be with DP's VST VI implementation, not with the plugins, so maybe the fix will come in a V8 update.

If not, I'll probably host my four remaining 32 bit VIs in DSP-Quattro until the IKM plugins are updated to 64bit. That leaves M1. The consensus seems to be that it will never be updated, but I see that it was quite recently. Otherwise, perhaps Autosampler and MF can deal with it.

I'm looking at JBridge and know from another thread that they're working with MOTU. Has the bounce issue been fixed yet? If not, is there a work around?

It's not critical for me as yet. I am doing new projects in DP 8 then going back to 7.24 as needed. Still, I'd like to be able to stay in 8.

A question to anyone using JBridge:
Could you please put up a pic and/or video showing how JBridge works in DP and what it looks like opening and using plugins like UAD with it.
Thanks