Friend, thank you for the clarification...really.jloeb wrote:Neither VCC nor any other plugin can change the relation of the mixbus to clipping at 0.cbergm7210 wrote:This is what I had assumed you had meant SS...the final mix buss in relation to clipping at 0.
Plugins like VCC and Nebula3 cannot and do not add headroom (they don't need to; there's already an excessive supply of it). They add coloration, one form of which is saturation. Saturation is one way to deal with amplitude spikes to yield a louder and/or more harmonically rich track. Other plugs (including Slate FGX and URS Saturation, among others) have used saturation of various types to increase apparent loudness.
Pulling down the master fader is a full-precision way to reduce the gain to accommodate a 24 bit fixed point mixdown. That has nothing to do with the presence or absence of pleasant analog saturation, which is what these plugins provide, among other things.
SS or Fabrice can correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know there's no way to literally change the summing math in DP. DP's summing math is what it is, and can't be circumvented. What plugs like VCC and Nebula3 do is the next best thing, which is to condition the individual tracks at their source with a first plugin and then the DP-summed mix at the mixbus with a second plugin, so that the personality of the console can be approximated if not precisely modeled.
These plugs sound great and definitely improve ITB mixing. But they don't change the laws of physics or DP's summing math. Digital zero is what it is, which is fine since it's no more of a limitation than it ever was.
Now, I will get back to the duties of orchestral arranging, vocal editing, songwriting, EQ automating, drum sub-mixing, guitar multiband compressing, level riding, background vocal part writing, live production sound mixing, VI updating, everything rebooting, forum checking, client meeting, schedule making, phone answering, vocal mic-ing, mastering, popcorn making, bathroom cleaning, studio vacuuming, three year old playing, fishing, lawn mowing (hopefully soon), and anything else that come before pitching Lawn Darts at software developers. (Not much time for that, no offense if that's your bag, baby.)
Oh to hear it now..."Too much time on my hands..."
completely first, I know that.
