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DP7.1 now running on PPC / Leopard, PT8 (had always crashed on hitting play/rec)
but still it´s not possible to enter numerical values in TDM-plugs (with rtas plugs there´s no problem)
How well does that combo work? Is it slower than, say, DP 5.13 and PT HD hardware in Tiger?
PL
I did only open some projects for check, so I cannot say much about performance & swtability compared to dp5 with tiger, but my first impression is very good - maybe next days will show some more
DP 7.2, Logic 9, PT HD 8 , G5, macmini with VE Pro http://www.live365.com/stations/perfect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... /?site=pro
On MacPro running OS 10.5.8 with PT 8.0.1cs1 and DP 7.1. So far running well.
Tonwurm is right regarding numerical entry in TDM plugs, though with all the waves plugs it works correctly, either TDM or RTAS. With the digirack plugs, you can not enter numerical data for TDM versions.
Also, the AIR plugins come up as deactivated, though the digi AIR VIs seem to work. Any guesses as to why no A.I.R plugs work?
Disappointing that they didn't fix the numerical entry issue. I thought it would be resolved along with the tempo-sync. Anyone else trying to run Serato Pitch-n-Time Pro? I use it all the time, runs fine in DP5 on Tiger. It's pretty much useless if you can't enter numerical data. Any work-around suggestions would be much appreciated (besides the obvious opening ProTools and tweaking PnT there and taking that back to DP). Thanks!
Just tried Serato PnT Pro-not only does it not accept numerical entry as edorogers mentioned, but after every attempt I made to try numerical entry, when I closed Serato, DP crashed, claiming a DAE error.
So, to those of you who've noticed that there is an issue with numerical entry for certain plugins, please make sure to open tech links directly with MOTU, or call in. I've just gotten off the phone with tech support, and was told they weren't aware of the issue. I was also told that they hadn't tried to replicate the problem, as they weren't aware of it.
workshirt wrote:So, to those of you who've noticed that there is an issue with numerical entry for certain plugins, please make sure to open tech links directly with MOTU, or call in. I've just gotten off the phone with tech support, and was told they weren't aware of the issue. I was also told that they hadn't tried to replicate the problem, as they weren't aware of it.
Yeah, important safety tip...if they don't know about it, it won't get fixed.
workshirt wrote:So, to those of you who've noticed that there is an issue with numerical entry for certain plugins, please make sure to open tech links directly with MOTU, or call in. I've just gotten off the phone with tech support, and was told they weren't aware of the issue. I was also told that they hadn't tried to replicate the problem, as they weren't aware of it.
I´ve techlinked this issue 1,5 years ago to motu, never got a answer - but 2 months ago I received an response - 'resolved'
same with about all my other techlinks (now I´m not a fan of motu´s support)
DP 7.2, Logic 9, PT HD 8 , G5, macmini with VE Pro http://www.live365.com/stations/perfect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... /?site=pro
workshirt wrote:So, to those of you who've noticed that there is an issue with numerical entry for certain plugins, please make sure to open tech links directly with MOTU, or call in. I've just gotten off the phone with tech support, and was told they weren't aware of the issue. I was also told that they hadn't tried to replicate the problem, as they weren't aware of it.
I told MOTU tech support about this issue in November. The only info I got back was "Look for an update in January", so I figured that meant that the issue would be resolved in 7.1. Once again, frustrated.
Just wanted to repeat my question before it scrolls into obscurity - is anyone here running DP 7.1 in DAE mode with PT HD hardware using Snow Leopard, and is all okay? Tripit, any chance?
Ok, I just installed SL 10.6.2 on one of my boot drives. Fresh install and transfered all my stuff from the 10.5. drive (an option during install) then downloaded the 10.6.2 combo install and installed that. It takes a while, but I didn't have to reinstall any apps or plugs. Everything is just like in my 10.5 drive.
DP7.1 boots up fine and seems to run just as it did in 10.5.8.
The only two things I had to do so far was punch in my DP serial when booting DP and down load and install the latest PACE driver. Other than that, when I opened a test session created on 10.5, everything came up and seems to work fine. The test session has Kontakt 3.5, Stylus and Omni in it. I also have VE Pro loaded with Stylus and Omni in it as well. The tempo/sync is still working on all of them. Session runs smoothly so far.
So, I would say it looks as if Dp7.1 is good to go on SL.
Mind you, there might be other 3rd party issues you can run into with SL. Also beware that you need 10.6.1 or 10.6.2. 10.6.0 is not qualified by Digi.
Another tip: I went through all my plugs prior to installing SL and made sure that they were all SL and 8.0.3 compatible. There is a cool new app offered in the DUC that someone made, it pulls up all your plug info then brings up the digi plug info window so you can easily check your plugs. Makes going through the plugs easier.
Also, if you do what I did and transfer your info/apps etc from 10.5, you should go into fontbook after installing 10.6 and verify all your fonts. I found 18 questionable fonts. I removed those to make sure.
I have to say, so far, this has been about the least painful major OS upgrade I've ever done.
Last edited by tripit@earthlink.net on Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Wow, thanks so much for testing this and for the info! I'm a month or two away from making my big change (from G5 10.4.11 DP5.13 etc. to MacPro 10.6.X DP 7.1) but this is really helpful (as your posts always are). I'll definitely share my experience when I make the switch.
Glad to help out.
With all the possible problems that seemed to be facing DP/DAE users, I think MOTU really did a fantastic job on 7.1 for us DAE users. Compared to what the Logic crowd is going through...man I'm thankful I'm not stuck in that mess.
workshirt wrote:So, to those of you who've noticed that there is an issue with numerical entry for certain plugins, please make sure to open tech links directly with MOTU, or call in. I've just gotten off the phone with tech support, and was told they weren't aware of the issue. I was also told that they hadn't tried to replicate the problem, as they weren't aware of it.
I told MOTU tech support about this issue in November. The only info I got back was "Look for an update in January", so I figured that meant that the issue would be resolved in 7.1. Once again, frustrated.
I had the same deal with the sync issue when 7 came out. They said to look for an update. It didn't get fixed in 7.0.2, but they got to it in 7.1. Maybe the entry issue will be in the next one. At least they know about it, now you just need to give them a little time to address it.
(This is mostly in response to tripit's report on DP7.1 in DAE mode with Snow Leopard). So, re the recent announcement on the Digi website about the end of support for DAE while using DP and Logic as of PT 8.0.3:
Just to clarify, when you did your recent test of DP 7.1 in DAE mode with SL, was that with PT 8.0.3? If so, I can exhale. If not, I guess I'll have to exhale anyway. But whether I'll inhale again or not is an open question. Yikes! The MOTU website, by contrast, has this to say (look at bottom section):
