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billf wrote:

monkey man wrote:My guess is it'll be when our hip pockets collectively go down the chute, Billy.
I got there long ago. Just waiting for everyone else to blow and lose enough money to realise they're pissing into the wind.

I'm with you Nicky. My two experiences with rompler land have been slightly expensive mistakes that may or may not be usuable again in the near future (see the Symphonic Choirs thread if interested in details). I literally had projects stopped stone cold because I was forced to move from the G5 to the Intel Mac, and said romplers haven't made it to the Intel in a fully usuable manner. To me that is unacceptable. Not only does it take a lot of time to try to find workarounds, but it made me realize that we are all one security OS update away from having our projects made unusable as long as our sample sets are tied up in a proprietary format that only works with a single player.

I'm so with you bro'. Sorry you got splashed man.

Here, have a hankie (don't feel bad - I keep a huge store of 'em for... er... emergences... I mean, emergencies). LOL

monkey man wrote:

billf wrote:

monkey man wrote:My guess is it'll be when our hip pockets collectively go down the chute, Billy.
I got there long ago. Just waiting for everyone else to blow and lose enough money to realise they're pissing into the wind.

I'm with you Nicky. My two experiences with rompler land have been slightly expensive mistakes that may or may not be usuable again in the near future (see the Symphonic Choirs thread if interested in details). I literally had projects stopped stone cold because I was forced to move from the G5 to the Intel Mac, and said romplers haven't made it to the Intel in a fully usuable manner. To me that is unacceptable. Not only does it take a lot of time to try to find workarounds, but it made me realize that we are all one security OS update away from having our projects made unusable as long as our sample sets are tied up in a proprietary format that only works with a single player.

I'm so with you bro'. Sorry you got splashed man.

Here, have a hankie (don't feel bad - I keep a huge store of 'em for... er... emergences... I mean, emergencies). LOL

lol, yes, or as the cliche goes: once bitten, twice shy. Although I might try the Kontakt 3 approach again for SC now that I'm on Leopard.

It's not just samplers or romplers. It's plug ins of all types. any kind of peripheral "gear" is just one update away from obsolescence, and as I learned from Waves over the past few years, their attitude is Rhett Butler's: "Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn." They might upgrade it and they might not. Turned out that the front end of Waves was not communicating our grievances to the back end (programmers). Once the engineers found out -- from a member of this forum through a serendipitous meeting at the music store where our fellow cornie worked, the engineer took our thread back to Waves, and we had our update within a month. It's worked ever since. And updating has gotten easier (though still plenty convoluted and involved). I'd rather do taxes than update Waves, and the chances of a major, disappointing surprise is far greater with Waves than with taxes. (my update to Waves 6.0 the other day cost me $56, but the next one will cost me $232, or something like that... thank you WUP)

So, we invest in this stuff and we get to use it for a while. I look at all the money I spent on the OS9 days. (that is, from System 1.0 to OS9) That money is ALL gone. Truly we are leasing our computer experiences, and we always have the "option" of getting off the treadmill and staying put with the system and software we have at a given instant in time. But you can't go on unless you fork out the dough, and even THAT doesn't always guarantee that you'll get everything you had before. I lost a lot of software in the OS9-OSX transition. I lost some more in the Leopard transition. And the Intel transition completely nixed the remaining classic apps I used.

Oh, why complain? I've still got those old computers sitting around if it ever becomes so important that I just HAVE to have something. Hasn't happened yet...

and I keep forking out the dough.

Shooshie

That's it Shoosh!
We're leasing these things, but when you buy hardware... it's yours.

Shooshie wrote:It's not just samplers or romplers. It's plug ins of all types. any kind of peripheral "gear" is just one update away from obsolescence, and as I learned from Waves over the past few years, their attitude is Rhett Butler's: "Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn." They might upgrade it and they might not. Turned out that the front end of Waves was not communicating our grievances to the back end (programmers). Once the engineers found out -- from a member of this forum through a serendipitous meeting at the music store where our fellow cornie worked, the engineer took our thread back to Waves, and we had our update within a month. It's worked ever since. And updating has gotten easier (though still plenty convoluted and involved). I'd rather do taxes than update Waves, and the chances of a major, disappointing surprise is far greater with Waves than with taxes. (my update to Waves 6.0 the other day cost me $56, but the next one will cost me $232, or something like that... thank you WUP)

Yes, that is quite true. Although I haven't been orphaned on plugins like I have with sample sets, but I've undergone the same experiences as you with Waves. I'm still on the fence about the 6.0 "upgrade" but Waves are sort of like a drug. We get hooked and keep forking over money to them to keep going. That's why they call us "users".