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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:58 am
by pagano
according to this french website, MOTU should sell a brand new Virtual instrument: ELECTRICKEYS (approximatly 40 gigabytes of old school sounds

)
Here is some pics:

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:01 am
by stiefelmusik
monkey man wrote:The text in the mixer looks far clearer/more legible to me.

The new mixer graphics in general look very clean and cool to me. Strangely it reminds me of DP 2 -- retro, but still modern.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:06 am
by J.Daniels
wait, does it say if electric keys is included with DP6?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:22 am
by monkey man
I don't think it is, JD.
It wouldn't surprise me if MOTU did a Steve Jobs close to the release date.
I can see it now: Oh, and one more thing...
DP6 features 18 new instruments.
stiefelmusik wrote:monkey man wrote:The text in the mixer looks far clearer/more legible to me.

The new mixer graphics in general look very clean and cool to me. Strangely it reminds me of DP 2 -- retro, but still modern.
I only know 2.6-7 onwards' looks, but it reminds me of Peak from 3 or 4 years ago.
I only saw pics of Peak whilst picking pickles, but it seems similar in style.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:26 am
by pagano
I don't now if electrickeys will be included in DP6. Here are some features about ElectricKeys:
-40 gigabytes of sounds (50 classic and rare electric keyboards from the last 40 years)
- Electric Pianos, organs, and so on...
-authentic look and authentic sounds
-24 Bits/96 Khz multi-samples
-256 note polyphony and disk streaming
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:33 am
by pagano
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:33 am
by stiefelmusik
monkey man wrote:
I only know 2.6-7 onwards' looks
Me, too... although not very well, so my comparison probably isn't very accurate (I didn't actually start using DP myself until version 3). In any case, the new mixer in DP6 has a retro feel to it, which I like.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:41 am
by monkey man
Yeah, it's futuristic yet retro.
I'm seriously stoked at the clarity of text.

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:40 am
by Resonant Alien
Sorry if this is a repeat, but I saw this link over on Gearslutz. I just hope DP6 will run on my aging G4!!
http://public.fotki.com/lwilliam/namm-2008/
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:46 am
by pagano
the link is the same on dp-zone.org's forum (for sure someone in the US gave this link and all the digital performer's forums all around the world put the pics ontheir own forums)
Unicornation is always the forum number 1 for motu's news

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:21 am
by wvandyck
This is very exciting news.
Can't wait to fire it up!

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:17 pm
by wolding
monkey man wrote:The text in the mixer looks far clearer/more legible to me.

I hope we don't have to have a six-foot projection on the wall to see things more clearly this time. I remember a list of suggestions & recommendations for the DP designers in this forum (but I can't find it now). Some things I'm really looking forward to are re-sizable text / fonts throughout the program, and right-mouse-click context sensitive menus.
Since I do a lot of comping, the improvements promised in the list of features really sounds promising to me.
Billo
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:14 pm
by Kubi
monkey man wrote:It wouldn't surprise me if MOTU did a Steve Jobs close to the release date.
I can see it now: Oh, and one more thing...
DP6 features 18 new instruments.
Sorry but I don't think that'll ever happen. Here's my take:
MOTU is (thank God!) still in the music software business. They are both committed to and dependent on the development of music software, and need to reap as many profit streams as possible while remaining competitive. (Which is why all MOTU products but DP are both Mac and PC.) MOTU do offer hardware audio and now video interfaces, but DP and the software instruments are an important part of their product catalog.
Apple is a computer manufacturer, a cell phone/PDA/media player manufacturer, and a media company. The music software to them is a selling point for their computers - income from Logic doesn't even show up on their balance sheet, I'm sure, it's so minuscule.
That (and the fact that they enjoy a ubiquity second only to ProTools at the moment) is IMO the reason they weren't even at NAMM, and I don't expect they will return anytime soon. There is no way they make much money on selling their entire music software package for a measly $500 - at least not without seriously slowing down future development and support. But they do sell expensive hardware that way, so they make money - for now.
Downside for all Logic users is, should Apple ever decide that Logic is no longer a valuable factor in moving their computers, you can bet money that they will drop Logic faster than Gibson dropped Opcode... The fact that between iTunes and the iPhone they are moving more and more in a media company direction also doesn't help.
So while in the short run the bargain-basement selloff of Apple's music wares is a good thing for its users, in the long run it would make me worried if I depended on Logic. And you can tell on the Logic forums that a number of Logic users are longing for Emagic days... so I'm glad MOTU is trying to do right by us AND by themselves. Better for all of us.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:18 pm
by wvandyck
Kubi wrote:
MOTU is (thank God!) still in the music software business. They are both committed to and dependent on the development of music software, and need to reap as many profit streams as possible while remaining competitive. (Which is why all MOTU products but DP are both Mac and PC.) MOTU do offer hardware audio and now video interfaces, but DP and the software instruments are an important part of their product catalog.
I'm not an industry insider, but based on the ads I've seen over the years, I would guess that the hardware division pretty much keeps them going. And of course the cross platform software instruments are a treat for us and a bonus for them.
Kubi wrote: Downside for all Logic users is, should Apple ever decide that Logic is no longer a valuable factor in moving their computers, you can bet money that they will drop Logic faster than Gibson dropped Opcode...
I kinda doubt that will happen. The Logic user base is
vast.
And
expanding!
I say that as a small timer, but with big passion for DP.
Kubi wrote: So while in the short run the bargain-basement selloff of Apple's music wares is a good thing for its users, in the long run it would make me worried if I depended on Logic. And you can tell on the Logic forums that a number of Logic users are longing for Emagic days... so I'm glad MOTU is trying to do right by us AND by themselves. Better for all of us.
I plan to continue to use DP for as long as I'm kickin'. But I have to wonder how this will all play out.
It seems a safe bet that existing DP users are fiercely loyal and will continue to support MOTU through the purchase of upgrades. I didn't blink an eye when the cost of the DP5 upgrade was $200 bucks.
But what about new users? My analogy of DP vs Logic is that DP is more like a manual film camera that requires more informed decisions from the user. It also offers the most options to achieve the creative vision. Logic is more like a semi-automatic camera for the point and shoot crowd (GarageBand) and pros. This is not a criticism. There is an ease of use that Logic provides that would require a DP user to do a bit more work with templates and window sets etc to more or less match.
So what's the draw for new users???
Again, no one needs to convince me of the value of DP. And the existing user base.
Cost and features will ultimately play out the reality of evolution!!!
And I'm paying my hard-earned $$$ to support MOTU.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:54 pm
by zed
flashgerkin wrote:My analogy of DP vs Logic is that DP is more like a manual film camera that requires more informed decisions from the user. It also offers the most options to achieve the creative vision. Logic is more like a semi-automatic camera for the point and shoot crowd (GarageBand) and pros. This is not a criticism. There is an ease of use that Logic provides that would require a DP user to do a bit more work with templates and window sets etc to more or less match.
I want photos which have the essence of organic film grain. Thankfully DP exists.
History has shown that a lot of rubbish can be spawned from tools which don't require much operator attention.