5.1 UB on PPC, faster or slower?

[Timeline]

The fact that I would need a new computer, cards for my scsi's and UAD makes it a very costly upgrade anyway.

Oh well.

I hear ya man. I was gonna buy a new "MacIntelTower" later this year or next, whenever they show up, but after UAD announced their plans with the UAD-1e, I realized that just upgrading to a new Mac was gonna cost me a good $4500!! (2 UADs, plus new hard disks since my ATAs won't work in the new machines, plus new memory since my 2700 won't work......Yikes.) So, at this point, I'm hoping to sweat as much juice out of my G4 as possible.

Still.....you may want to jump to DP5.1 - I am probably going to make the jump if for no other reason than to get the automatic freezing on plugins - that should free up enough CPU to keep me happy on my G4 for a while. From what I have heard in the past day, DP5.1 on the PPC machines is working pretty well, so my G4 ought to like it!~

Yea well if Corinto would please answer my mail I would. MOTU HELLOOOOO!

Befor i take my 200 bucks and drive down to Mexico instead for a REAL good time. ;•••)

[blackcrayon]

I decided to try the WaveArts 5 plugins a couple of days before DP 5.1 came out (using Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb RAM) ... I loaded the same project i was working with with 5.1 that had a couple of masterverbs on it. The UI was slowed to a crawl until i disabled them (wiper and counter skipping all over the place)... In 5.01 the project works just fine.

Just to see i created a new project and just added 2 masterverbs to a VI track... Same thing, almost unusably slow UI (though DP's CPU meter stays at around 1/4).

Perhaps some of the slowdowns seen are just with 3rd party plugins that need to be updated for 5.1. And this could be an issue with both powerpc AND intel users (Sure, your plugin might be universal binary and work with your intel mac, but other changes in 5.1 might be affecting the performance of your plugins with DP...)

Or this could just be me, who knows

[tommymandel]

Maybe I will wait before upgrading to 5.1 also. My issue would only be AutoTune (Audio-Units version) and IK's T-Racks Mastering Suite. Oh, and that free SSL Compressor Plug. Since I'm still on PPC, it shouldn't be a problem, but. . . . since everything is working at the moment, I would welcome anyone with Auto-Tune AU and or IK T-Racks experience with 5.1 on a Dual G5 PPC machine.

[gseibert]

Yesterday I tried DP 5.1 for the first time. It ran OK on my test project. This project has many many audio tracks, about a dozen MIDI tracks, much bussing to external efx and also internal efx. (DP only). It ran about 95% to 100% based on the MenuMeters display. Last night I did some house cleaning using Onyx. Today that same track runs MUCH less CPU, peaking at about 70%. I did 2 things in Onyx. Using the Maintenance panel, I executed the 'run maintenance scripts' for daily weekly and monthly. Then I executed the Optimation: Complete optimization. Restarted and found out it really helped. If you have an older G4 like I do, you may want to try this if things get slow for you after upgrading.

DP 5.1, MDD G4 dual 1 Ghz 1 GB ram OSX 10.4.7 with all recent patches

[Resonant Alien]

I decided to try the WaveArts 5 plugins a couple of days before DP 5.1 came out (using Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb RAM) ... I loaded the same project i was working with with 5.1 that had a couple of masterverbs on it. The UI was slowed to a crawl until i disabled them (wiper and counter skipping all over the place)... In 5.01 the project works just fine.

Just to see i created a new project and just added 2 masterverbs to a VI track... Same thing, almost unusably slow UI (though DP's CPU meter stays at around 1/4).

Perhaps some of the slowdowns seen are just with 3rd party plugins that need to be updated for 5.1. And this could be an issue with both powerpc AND intel users (Sure, your plugin might be universal binary and work with your intel mac, but other changes in 5.1 might be affecting the performance of your plugins with DP...)

Or this could just be me, who knows

System specs please?????

[David Polich]

Maybe I will wait before upgrading to 5.1 also. My issue would only be AutoTune (Audio-Units version) and IK's T-Racks Mastering Suite. Oh, and that free SSL Compressor Plug. Since I'm still on PPC, it shouldn't be a problem, but. . . . since everything is working at the moment, I would welcome anyone with Auto-Tune AU and or IK T-Racks experience with 5.1 on a Dual G5 PPC machine.

Tommy, if you're on a PPC Mac, why wouldn't Auto-Tune and T-Racks work in 5.1? There's no reason they shouldn't.

Oh, except I do have a good upgrade suggestion for you - get Waves "Tune" and ditch Auto-Tune...I've pulled Auto-Tune off my drive for good since I started using Waves Tune.

[Frodo]

I don't have any Waves plugins, but some may be interested to read billf's post in another thread in case it was missed:

I found a problem with Waves Gold Bundle and DP 5.1 last night on PPC. Specifically, if you have TuneLite, version 1.0 of the WaveShell, it will crash DP 5.1. Updating the TuneLite WaveShell to version 1.1 fixed the problem.

[blackcrayon]

I decided to try the WaveArts 5 plugins a couple of days before DP 5.1 came out (using Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb RAM) ... I loaded the same project i was working with with 5.1 that had a couple of masterverbs on it. The UI was slowed to a crawl until i disabled them (wiper and counter skipping all over the place)... In 5.01 the project works just fine.

Just to see i created a new project and just added 2 masterverbs to a VI track... Same thing, almost unusably slow UI (though DP's CPU meter stays at around 1/4).

Perhaps some of the slowdowns seen are just with 3rd party plugins that need to be updated for 5.1. And this could be an issue with both powerpc AND intel users (Sure, your plugin might be universal binary and work with your intel mac, but other changes in 5.1 might be affecting the performance of your plugins with DP...)

Or this could just be me, who knows

System specs please?????

What were you looking for other than "Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb of RAM"? I'm using a PCI-424 with a 2408 mk3, mk2, and a 1224...

[WSVP]

I decided to try the WaveArts 5 plugins a couple of days before DP 5.1 came out (using Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb RAM) ... I loaded the same project i was working with with 5.1 that had a couple of masterverbs on it. The UI was slowed to a crawl until i disabled them (wiper and counter skipping all over the place)... In 5.01 the project works just fine.

Just to see i created a new project and just added 2 masterverbs to a VI track... Same thing, almost unusably slow UI (though DP's CPU meter stays at around 1/4).

Perhaps some of the slowdowns seen are just with 3rd party plugins that need to be updated for 5.1. And this could be an issue with both powerpc AND intel users (Sure, your plugin might be universal binary and work with your intel mac, but other changes in 5.1 might be affecting the performance of your plugins with DP...)

I just posted this in another thread.

I believe that MOTU made some major changes to the MAS code. If you are having problems I would recommend removing all 3rd party MAS plugins that are not updated for DP 5.1. Some plugins install both an AU & MAS version, DP will default to the MAS if it is available. Remember if you are using an MAS plugin in a project and re-open the project (after removing the MAS version) it will not automatically substitute the AU version, it will view the plugin as missing, thus all your plugin settings will be lost. I would advise saving any important MAS plugin settings before upgrading to DP 5.1.

[toodamnhip]

On the song I tested, direct A-B comparisons using activity monitor numbers, showed DP 5.1 to be 1-3% less efficient than DP 5.01

[Resonant Alien]

System specs please?????

What were you looking for other than "Dual 2.0 G5 with 2.5 gb of RAM"? I'm using a PCI-424 with a 2408 mk3, mk2, and a 1224...

Sorry, my bad. Thanks.