DP 5: features, enhancements, issues

Saintmatthew · Post by **Saintmatthew** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:53 pm

So far DP5 rocks! VIs look cool, half to delve into them though. I never judge anything by it's pre-sets. MIDI-keys are awesome! Very handy in any number of situations where carrying an external controller is too much of a pain. They're very easy to use and setup. Very much awesomeness MOTU!

grimepoch · Post by **grimepoch** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:58 pm

Someone needs to make some overlays for powerbook keyboards that give you the keys

I'd so stick them on mine in a heartbeat!

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:05 pm

You don't need overlays, really. After looking at them a couple of times, you know what they are. You might need a few times to remember which keys are for which controllers, but overall it's too simple for key-overlays.

Shooshie

Resonant Alien · Post by **Resonant Alien** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:08 pm

Shooshie wrote:You don't need overlays, really. After looking at them a couple of times, you know what they are. You might need a few times to remember which keys are for which controllers, but overall it's too simple for key-overlays.

Shooshie

What I would like to see is a customized Mac keyboard like the Digi guys have for PT - with the hot keys labeled and color coded - that would be awesome.......of course it would need to be configurable so when you change you command bindings you could change your keyboard too.

grimepoch · Post by **grimepoch** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:10 pm

But you have to admit, it would look cool to have white and black keys on your powerbook

Saintmatthew · Post by **Saintmatthew** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:34 pm

But you have to admit, it would look cool to have white and black keys on your powerbook

Nail Polish.....or, better yet.....buy a black keyboard and a white one, pull the keys as appropriate for the notes and stick'em on one keyboard...

I am so gonna try this

grimepoch · Post by **grimepoch** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:35 pm

I don't know if I could get the keys off of my powerbook keyboard, and after that, I'd need to find a black one and a white one

I have the older style, and I believe there are some iBook keyboards that would match

Sending email to friend at apple store....

thesoundsmith · Post by **thesoundsmith** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:58 pm

waxman wrote:Yeah that is cool... crtl M and then having to option click and type the name before the next marker was always a bit interesting. I call it beat the clock...

yep!

Just re-assign to ctrlM (I thought control-M was the Enter key - What the heck?)

MT · Post by MT » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:00 pm

Anyone checked the Drum Editor yet? I'm curious about the disappearing notes issue. UTSF if you're not familiar with what I'm referring to. Any input would be great. Thanks.

groove · Post by **groove** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:06 pm

Once past the presets I must admit the VI's are addictive and could easily be of good use in productions. One great feature of Modulo is the "Learn controller mapping"; right-click or CTL-click on a pot and turn a knob on your external controller. No need to launch the automation mode. Of all the VI's only Modulo and NanoSampler have this feature.

So far, so good.

rikp · Post by **rikp** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:03 pm

I am up and running and all is well in DP5 land. All my VIs loaded and I am back to work! MOTU is cool and life is good! Just nestled my first folder

Peace

rikp

thracks · Post by **thracks** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:29 pm

Shooshie wrote:Just for the record, if it hasn't been said elsewhere already, the new manual is 1074 pages, compared to, I think, 996 in the previous manual. But the new "Getting Started" guide is noticeably slimmer at 42 pages vs. 132 in the previous one. It all kind of balances out. In fact, DP5 ships with fewer manual pages at 1116 total, vs. 1128 for DP4.5.

Shooshie

You actually did the math? You clearly have lost it

Step away from the computer, take a deep breath

RCory · Post by **RCory** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:34 pm

thracks wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Just for the record, if it hasn't been said elsewhere already, the new manual is 1074 pages, compared to, I think, 996 in the previous manual. But the new "Getting Started" guide is noticeably slimmer at 42 pages vs. 132 in the previous one. It all kind of balances out. In fact, DP5 ships with fewer manual pages at 1116 total, vs. 1128 for DP4.5.

Shooshie
You actually did the math? You clearly have lost it Step away from the computer, take a deep breath

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:50 pm

thracks wrote:
Shooshie wrote:Just for the record, if it hasn't been said elsewhere already, the new manual is 1074 pages, compared to, I think, 996 in the previous manual. But the new "Getting Started" guide is noticeably slimmer at 42 pages vs. 132 in the previous one. It all kind of balances out. In fact, DP5 ships with fewer manual pages at 1116 total, vs. 1128 for DP4.5.

Shooshie
You actually did the math? You clearly have lost it Step away from the computer, take a deep breath

For SHAME!!! You call yourself a DP user, and you don't EVEN know the total pages between the two manuals which come with it? What's next? I suppose next you're going to tell me you don't even know how many bytes of space* DP takes up on your hard drive.

You kids these days just aren't serious enough!

How do you ever expect to make music if you don't KNOW these things???

You may not believe this, but I actually have known people who didn't know how many notes are in a trill, or what brand of shoelaces Bach used. (or Paul McCartney, for that matter) Oh, the incompetence!

Shooshie**

*52,059,180 bytes

**...and btw:

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:36 pm

I've got a fairly large picture here, about 650K, so I'm not going to post it in the forum. Instead, I'm posting a link to it. Sorry about the size, but I wanted the details to show, and reduced pictures don't do justice to DP's small text.

This picture shows two interesting things about DP5. First, the Meter Bridge. You'll note that it is displaying busses in this picture, and that 5 instances of Ivory are running at once. As you can see, there are a lot of notes. This is for illustration purposes only, since most people would never use more than one instance of Ivory at a time, but the second interesting thing is that the CPU performance meter shows only about 35% usage. In this same song, under DP 4.61, it ran pretty much always in the red, never dropping below 95%. Here, it never gets above about 75%, and often dives down to very low values. This is one of the busier parts of the song.

That may not seem like much to some of you, but I'm using a Dual 1GHz Quicksilver (2002) with 1.5GB RAM. It's not the most VI-friendly computer on the planet, I assure you, and Ivory is a virtual CPU pig. Of those five pianos, I've got three running with 6 levels of samples, and two running with 8 levels, and the sampled piano is the Yamaha 7' grand. It seemed very odd to me that this played so freely in DP5. Some songs didn't change that much on the CPU meter. This one did radically. Something's going on here! I can't believe that DP5 could be that much more optimized, but I can't find anything else to account for the difference.

Another interesting thing about the Meter Bridge is that it wraps. If you put twice this many meters on, you'd get two rows wrapped, and they would adjust to the height of the window. There is a control to the upper left that works like the zoom in the MIDI window, that enables you to adjust the width of the meters to the extent that you have room.

Here is the meter bridge wrapped:

Anyway, I thought someone might like to see that.

Shooshie