NAMM REPORT (2nd hand): DP SIX!!!!!!!

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Post by blue »

Babz wrote:I'm only saying I thinking a slightly more unified look might not hurt. But really I should reserve comment until I've actually seen a decent screenshot or two.
Yea, it's hard to see the detail in those pics/vids. But it seems to me like the interface is more consistent and OSX Mac like. First of all, there are standard close, minimize and maximize buttons. Imagine that! None of those silly purple bars. The dialog boxes look better too. And from what I heard on the video, Magic Dave said the navigation buttons are in the same place on all the windows that have them. Sounds to me like they've unified a bunch of things that had been patched on over the years since DP3.

Can't wait to see it in person.
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dmuckala wrote: Once you get used to instrument tracks though, you'll never want to go back. one track for MIDI, plugin, outputs.
I've got Logic and I've got DP.

I like the way DP does it better. Makes it very easy for me to assign that MIDI track to another instrument (hardware, a second computer running VI's, etc) if I change my mind. I am sure Logic has a "logical" way to do that, but haven't figured it out yet.

So anyway personally I like my MIDI tracks separate from my VI tracks.

I hope they don't change it.
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Higher Res photos

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Here's a couple photos I took at a higher resolution.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/promotethe ... 751448304/
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Post by J.Daniels »

As much as i like this update, it seems to be pretty bad value for money for me personally. All i wanted was broadcast wavs and a less cluttered UI, which is what this update offers. But in the meantime, i purchased L8 Express for the same amount of money as this update and i got what i wanted and a whole lot more.

BUT, i would like to do it all in DP alone.
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Post by gearboy »

I for one can't wait to get my hands on this update. Moving fro DP4.61 to DP6 will be like stepping into the future, for sure.

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gearboy wrote:I for one can't wait to get my hands on this update. Moving fro DP4.61 to DP6 will be like stepping into the future, for sure.

Jeff
Same for me. I wonder if the burn to CD is Red book.
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this is nice but...

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elastic audio is the simplest thing which made me finally install Protools. This is the most obvious digital creative tool, allowing you to alter the pitch or speed of a whole song instantly at high quality.Melodyne does it also but as 3rd party solution. When will DP follow this? Why cant i do this simplest of musical operations as i am working in DP?
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Re: Higher Res photos

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TheLab wrote:Here's a couple photos I took at a higher resolution.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/promotethe ... 751448304/
Thanks for those. You can definitely see the detail a lot better. I noticed that a lot of info that used to be scattered all over is now consolidated in the sidebar tabs. Things like selection info and quantize, etc. That's a good call.
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gearboy wrote:I for one can't wait to get my hands on this update. Moving fro DP4.61 to DP6 will be like stepping into the future, for sure.

Jeff
And same for me +1

5 just didn't do it for me but 6 will
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I am sort of half looking forward to this upgrade and still unsure as to whether I'll bother. I am very, very glad they finally decided to include a (hopefully) decent stock compressor and convolution verb but I do wish there were more, like fixes for long standing stuff like notes disappearing in the drum editor and the ability have work with aspects of the Beat Detection process in the graphic editor (editing transient analysis for instance) like with BD and EA in PT. Also, and this is kind of splitting hairs, but I wish they would have either modeled the 1176 or some other comp that has an adjustable attack and release - LA2A's a great comp, no doubt, but it's only so flexible. I realize that the 1176 doesn't have particularly large span in terms of release and attack times, but at least they're adjustable to a degree. Better yet, it would have been nice if they took an approach a little more like the URS CSP or, to a lesser extent, the Logic 8 compressor, doing a utility does-sorta-close emulations of more than one type of comp.
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Looking at the excellent photo taken by TheLab I noticed that the echo effects knobs are almost too small to see let alone use. What up with that? Is there a large fader that appears if you hold the mouse over it? I hope they make that larger.

Also some have said the transport buttons were too big. I think they are the same or smaller than in DP5 and the thinness of the entire redesign is making you think it's bigger.

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Post by tripit@earthlink.net »

Wow, all the features I've been wanting are now in DP6!
MOTU finally caught up to Protools DAE. I've been begging for this for the last two years. The new film scoring features are great as well. We can finally do streamers in real time directly out of the wirefire. Plus we now have 23.97fps. No more bastard converts for film projects.
By the way, I for one think the UI looks great. About time they updated the old one.
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Well, saw the presentation at NAMM today. I thought I'd jot down some notes. There will likely be some repetition, as I haven't taken the time to read the 20 pages of this post...

1) Many new "takes" features, including exploding takes out into separate tracks.

2) There's a "comp" tool in the Tools Pallete that can be used in conjunction with takes to quickly compile a "compilation take". In other words, you record 4 passes of a vocalist to separate takes, you say "Show Takes", it shows you all the takes, you then click-and-drag over the parts you want with the "C" tool, and those parts are automatically copy-pasted into the "compilation take". Looked cool and useful...

2a) When you "show takes", the "shown takes" appeared to work just like regular tracks...with their own fader in the mixing board, etc.

2b) Curious what they'll do with default shortcuts for that Comp Tool, as double-C is already Scissors.

3) Audio File Preferences... You are no longer stuck with split-SDII. You can choose what format of audio files are in the Audio files folder... AIFF, WAV, etc.

4) Plug-in Preferences... You can turn off plug-ins you never use, and they won't be loaded when DP starts. Obviously, this will save time when opening...and also RAM. So if the ProVerb is really good, you can just deactivate eVerb and that other Reverb...

5) There's significant overhaul of the Control Panel. No more "side panels" and fewer "buttons". As one example, I noticed the "cue chunks" "chain chunks" buttons were moved to the Chunks window.

6) The zoom buttons were in the same place for every window... No longer lower right of Tracks Window, upper left of Sequence, etc.

7) The Import/Compare XML files features looked awesome. Basically, you could import and compare the XML files given to you by a Final Cut video editor...and it would highlight in your sequence the sections that correspond to the video changes he made.

8) I noticed the I/O in the mixing board had been moved to the top of each channel, rather than the bottom.

9) I noticed a "Snap Information" section in a sidebar to the Consolidated Window. Looked like the "Edit Resolution" info with some additional options.

10) New "ProVerb" plug. Honestly, general NAMM noise was too loud to know how good it is.

11) New "MW Leveler" plug. Ditto...NAMM noise, etc.

12) New "Electric Keys" plug. This came with 40 GB of samples. I had moved closer for this and the Rhodes, etc., sounded great.

13) Burn straight to a CD via the Bounce to Disc option.

14) Prerendering VI tracks.

15) Bounce to Disk will include VI tracks.

16) Vertical zoom of tracks in the Tracks window.

17) Color coded audio files.

18) Supports the 23.976 fps frame rate.
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Post by DP Fan »

Also...I don't know if this has been posted, but with the Burn directly to CD options, you can use Markers to place Track IDs.

So if you want an ID in the middle of a tune for some reason, stick a marker there and done...

I'll use that roughly 10 times a day...
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Post by Shooshie »

Phil O wrote:So, um. Now that DP6 is coming out, do you all think it will take Waves another two years to catch up? Hell, they should have the final release of the DP5 compatible version out by year's end, don't you think?

Phil
The final release of Waves for DP was entitled "Beta 5.97." I think Beta is a cute name for Waves, don't you? 8)

Actually, it appears that MOTU has done some work on their AU format, so I'd be willing to bet that Waves no longer needs to make a special version for us, and that whatever they put out will be compatible with DP.

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