The DP6 Countdown Thread

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:47 pm

Shooshie wrote: If you love something...

You'll pay any price for the update
And wait forever until it arrives.

cuttime · Post by **cuttime** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:49 pm

There is some banter (hope it's just rumors) on the MOTU Yahoo! group that DP6 will be delayed until 10/'08. Somebody...Say it ain't so!

EDIT: Then again I may be the victim of a 4/1 joke.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:49 pm

DP6 Countdown Thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ko89hiGL ... re=related

bOing · Post by **bOing** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:08 pm

cuttime wrote:There is some banter (hope it's just rumors) on the MOTU Yahoo! group that DP6 will be delayed until 10/'08. Somebody...Say it ain't so!

EDIT: Then again I may be the victim of a 4/1 joke.

Such cruel rumours are the product of a mind that finds entertainment in burning ants with a magnifying glass.

[Okay sure, I did that once too. But that was different.]

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:47 pm

I'll bet there is some truth to that banter. It seems to me MOTU would want to get this new update perfect this time and considering Logic and Nuendo have been released, I doubt they're feeling any real pressure from the competition to hurry it out. That and the economy being messed up make it sound likely, but... you never know.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:00 pm

Interesting footnote:

"Intel Exec: Programming for Multicore Chips a Challenge"

http://www.macworld.com/article/132794/ ... icore.html

No doubt, the essence of what Davis is saying is likely felt in a variety of forms across a wide spectrum of developers.

The article is probably more of a glorified understatement, but it confirms a few suspicious-- it was nice to see some of the speculations in writing.

The 8-Core Macs are not as new a concept as they once were, and where multicore efficiency has been called into questions by a few 8-Core owners, it's more obvious now that hardware has gotten a bit out front of software development-- pushing into two years at this point.

But with East-West and now Adobe are taking steps forward with their most recent releases, maybe this trickle can serve as some sign of encouragement for DP6.

So close, and yet...

billf · Post by **billf** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:27 pm

Shooshie wrote:
billf wrote:Countdown Update:

* All those who predicted a release date in March 2008, you do not win the prize. As of 2nd April 2008, DP is still officially at v 5.13. Your runner up prize is a free version of Audacity. You can pick it up at the back of the room.

* All those who predicted a release date beyond 2nd April 2008, stay tuned. DP 6 is just around the corner, and you might be the lucky grand prize winner.

Okay, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Count me among the losers. Can I at least get a consolation prize of a copy of Humility? I mean, since obviously I can't have Audacity!

Shoosh

Yes Shooshie. Here is your consolation prize.

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~marek/intune/index.html

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:44 pm

80-core Polaris chip? Ok this is cool.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:57 pm

twistedtom wrote:80-core Polaris chip? Ok this is cool.

Ever wondered what an 80-Core looked like?

twistedtom · Post by **twistedtom** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:05 am

How would you run 64 bits into 80 cores?

Spikey Horse · Post by **Spikey Horse** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:21 am

While we wait for DP6, who's up for a for watching some porn?

Math porn that is!

Choose your music style:

spacey loopy minimalist

baroque

kwiz · Post by **kwiz** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:26 am

Spikey Horse wrote:While we wait for DP6, who's up for a for watching some porn?

Math porn that is!

Choose your music style:

spacey loopy minimalist

baroque

Fractals!!!!
Ok, now I have wood...

zed · Post by **zed** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:34 am

Spikey Horse wrote:While we wait for DP6, who's up for a for watching some porn?

Math porn that is!

Yeah, damn you Spikey Horse. I love Mandelbrot sets and Fractal stuff. Ever since you sent me to YouTube I've been watching related videos. It is so easy to get hooked on this stuff... I don't know when I'll get to bed now!

This is a fascinating universe (or multiverse) that we live in.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:15 am

Shooshie wrote:Count me among the losers. Can I at least get a consolation prize of a copy of Humility? I mean, since obviously I can't have Audacity!

Shoosh

LOL! Brilliant, Shoosh.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:26 am

zed wrote:
Spikey Horse wrote:While we wait for DP6, who's up for a for watching some porn?

Math porn that is!
Yeah, damn you Spikey Horse. I love Mandelbrot sets and Fractal stuff. Ever since you sent me to YouTube I've been watching related videos. It is so easy to get hooked on this stuff... I don't know when I'll get to bed now!

This is a fascinating universe (or multiverse) that we live in.

Great stuff. Really great. I found some links there that led to even better, such as one that zoomed into a set deeper than the size of the known universe.

The important thing, to me, about zooming into these sets is to realize what we're looking at. We're looking at boundaries between the edges of things that just don't quite meet. If you ever wondered what happens on the quantum level of things, where "objects" break down into forces, and if any two forces ever actually met each other -- that is, ever actually occupied the same space, they'd either cease to exist, or they'd become something else -- then you may have played the game of trying to follow these things as they try to meet, and see where they go.

Well, these are not actually forces or objects, but mathematical constructs. Geometrical spaces. And they are Mathematically limited to where they can be in relation to each other. So, the deeper you go into the border, the more they dance around each other, never quite becoming the other. Any time two parts begin to come together, when there is a mathematical necessity that they be separated by another part, then you will find the other part zooming into existence between them before the original two can touch. As the rules get more complex, or as there are more parts of the plane forbidden to meet, the borders between them grow more and more complicated.

The real world is like this, too, since no two objects ever really meet. At the borders between things, reality becomes loopy and complex. Rivers, for example, get oxbows, jump their boundaries, refuse to be contained. At the borders of religions and nations, there are always skirmishes where they just don't quite fit together. At the border of a tube, where the wind passes over its end, pressure differences resemble those mandelbrot sets. When enough regularity is reinforced through harmonic regulation of those pressures, a miraculous thing happens: the pipe sings. But chaotic underpinnings will keep causing more pressure differences that are not harmonic, and so the pipe will acquire a voice of its own, transients and harmonics of its own. Push it too hard, and chaos ensues; you get non-harmonic noise. Keep pushing and you go through more noises until another regular period comes along -- just like in those mandelbrot sets -- and another beautiful sound emerges: the fundamental is now overblown at an octave or a fifth, fourth, 3rd, 2nd... etc.

At the edges of things, the world is in turmoil, for no two things touch in perfect harmony. They must find their shared overtones, their complimentary-shaped boundaries, and work out the dance between them that both keeps them apart and allows them to almost touch.

Fractals are some of the most fascinating edges in the universe.

Shooshie