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Hi all. Hopefully not OT but I wonder if anyone would dare speculate as to when the next official release of a major DP upgrade will come?
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Re: DP6 Wishlist

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dubwon wrote:The biggest priority for me would be greater efficiency with VI's at low buffer settings.

Sidechain support of AU's

Automatable track mute/solo with MIDI CC's.

Overall stability.

What I DON'T want:

More included VI's

More included Plugins

There are plenty of 3rd party VI's and plugins that are much better than the ones that DP provides, many of them free.
+1

And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).

Dedicated instrument tracks (MIDI and VI on same track).

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Re: DP6 Wishlist

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HeadMaster wrote:And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).
DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
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Mr_Clifford wrote:
HeadMaster wrote:And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).
DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
It's occurred to me that they might make an optional "Smart Solo" setting, whereby soloing a track -- any track -- would make sure that its upline is also soloed. Until then, I'm pretty happy with solo exemptions.

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Re: DP6 Wishlist

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Shooshie wrote:
Mr_Clifford wrote:
HeadMaster wrote:And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).
DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
It's occurred to me that they might make an optional "Smart Solo" setting, whereby soloing a track -- any track -- would make sure that its upline is also soloed. Until then, I'm pretty happy with solo exemptions.
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Yeah, something that would be handy for checking a reverb or other effect without the dry signal
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burn em wrote:
Shooshie wrote:
Mr_Clifford wrote: DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
It's occurred to me that they might make an optional "Smart Solo" setting, whereby soloing a track -- any track -- would make sure that its upline is also soloed. Until then, I'm pretty happy with solo exemptions.
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Yeah, something that would be handy for checking a reverb or other effect without the dry signal
+1

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Mr_Clifford wrote:
HeadMaster wrote:And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).
DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
To solo a group I either need to individually solo all the channels upstream from the group or unsolo exempt the group and solo exempt the upstream channels.

I can do it *relatively* easily, why can't my Mac (DP) do it for me?

That logic would work for a lot of things including a *smart* solo on an aux. Let me tell my computer to do the annoying stuff so I don't have to.

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"There are plenty of 3rd party VI's and plugins that are much better than the ones that DP provides, many of them free."

I find this disturbing because i agree and we pay money for DP and of course it's a total package with many fine and brilliant features but when you can find these things for free that IN SOME CASES are better than the one included in DP which we pay for it makes one wonder why they can't at lest include one as good as the freebes at the very very least.

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rcannonp wrote:Here's a couple more.

I would like to have a clipping window in a sidebar of the consolidated window. I often save clippings as chunks, but I would like to keep the chunks window cleaner and not have to go searching for my clipping windows.

Another things is that I don't understand why there are three levels of menus in the effects window. It seems that Insert A could be replaced by the name of the effect or instrument on Insert A. Using the effect window would be more efficient if you didn't have to scroll through each insert to see what is on it.
In Pro Tools, if you control apple click any parameter on a plug in, it brings up that parameter automation in the edit window...this save a huge amount of time as opposed to scrolling down through hundred of atuomation parameters..DP needs that badly...
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Brilliant suggestion toodamnhip !
Scrolling to chose automation parameter gets boring.
Specially with multiparameters plugins as preamp1 or stereo delay.
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toodamnhip wrote: In Pro Tools, if you control apple click any parameter on a plug in, it brings up that parameter automation in the edit window...this save a huge amount of time as opposed to scrolling down through hundred of atuomation parameters..DP needs that badly...
Man you ARE Too-dam-hip! That's one of the best suggestions I've heard in a LONNNNNG time. If you could just do a key-click on any item and have its automation track appear in the SE, that would be fantastic! I might start using more automation then!

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Re: DP6 Wishlist

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Shooshie wrote:
Mr_Clifford wrote:
HeadMaster wrote:And, add "solo" to aux tracks as well (sometimes it's stupid, but sometimes REALLY handy).
DP already has that. What happens is that it is disabled when you have the track solo exempted. If you take the track out of 'solo exempt' mode a solo button appears on your mixer. Of course if you solo an aux track by itself you're not going to hear anything anyway, because the tracks that are sending to that aux channel have now been muted.
It's occurred to me that they might make an optional "Smart Solo" setting, whereby soloing a track -- any track -- would make sure that its upline is also soloed. Until then, I'm pretty happy with solo exemptions.
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burn em wrote:2 - option to mute aux returns when a track is soloed and does not send any aux signal to to that aux track. To me atleast, *solo* means just that, I want to hear nothing else but what I have soloed. Everything else muted that isnt in the signal path of what is soloed. (eg I dont want to hear snare reverb when bass gtr is soloed.) I know there is a way to buss things to solve this, still a pain.
I'm stunned, burn 'em. :shock:

I've been wrestling with configuring a default template, and because of this very issue I've ended up having to create separate FX blocks for audio, VIs, recorded MIDI and live-to-mixdown MIDI.
It got way out of control, resulting in a 198 bus template! :shock:

Only yesterday did it occur to me that a "solo path" or "bussed to solo point" option in the prefs would solve this inconvenience and save a whole lot of time.
I'm therefore solidly behind this one.
Surely many 'Cornies could benefit from this feature?
Then again, I am just a punk going on old fart. :lol:
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I wish that MOTU would include hierarchical markers or at least let you set individual marker colors. I like to map out chord changes with markers, but then I would like to also be able to mark other events with different colored markers so that I could easily distinguish them.
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rcannonp wrote:I wish that MOTU would include hierarchical markers or at least let you set individual marker colors. I like to map out chord changes with markers, but then I would like to also be able to mark other events with different colored markers so that I could easily distinguish them.
Ha! Great idea, rcannonp.

Instead of a squashed-up line of orange marker icons in the TO, we'd actually be able to distinguish significant events/changes.
Great. :D

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great idea that marker color coding !
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