DP 8.1 Wishlist

[Tripi]

This post is titled "Wishlist"..... right?

Here's a couple more 'wishes' which would probably bog down DP's code with redundant buggery:

1 - More choices for the click sound, 'cause 4 cowbell options just aren't enough for me.

2 - More guitar plugins in surround format. There really aren't enough guitar plugins taking up space in DP right now.... so make more.

3 - POLAR v2. Wait, POLAR is still in DP, right? I don't know anyone who has ever opened it and used it for anything. Sort of like the Quan Jr plugin. Just taking up space in "the code".

4 - A web browser (and email client!) built in to the consolidated windows. It would make checking my email while I work much easier.

[toodamnhip]

While I applaud any truly sensible and needed wish, there’s an old saying- “Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it”

I think if MOTU ran around making every “wish” come true, it would be less efficient than it already is.

For example, I need VE PRo to run VI’s, why? DP is terribly inefficient and bogs down when using VI’s.

VI efficiency ....That is a truly VITAL area for improvement.
House keeping to move copies of things here and there is way less important.
Of course, wish away.
But the real world of limitations dictates prioritizing “wishes” carefully.

[Dan Worley]

You know the menu at the very bottom of a mixer strips where we can set the input and outputs and delete a track and stuff? I would like MOTU to add Takes to that menu.

I wonder if adding everyone’s little quirks and preferences is counter productive to our “GROUP” goal of a more EFFICIENT DP.
The more redundant code there is, the more any window, anyplace, contains all options, , is the moment redundant code has to be written.
I seem to recall DP re-arranging the location of a lot of stuff when it last optimized itself. And I recall some redundant edit options were removed.
Keep that in mind when requesting added pull down options in various areas.
You know where the “add takes” menu is now. Is it worth it to you to have a less efficient DP for MOTU to add everyone’s requests and quirks? Yours is just ONE request. There are 50 others. All of them seem to me to be “I know where the window to do this is but want it easier to do it in this other place”.
If something is OBVIOUSLY dumb about DP, such as NO MIDI muting, ok, that needs to be added.
But “convenience” features should be well thought out before asking for them.
Let’s get the obvious MISSING functionality handled before asking for quirky work flow conveniences.

Don't worry about it. I doubt they'll ever add it--though I wish they would. When I'm in the mixer I want to stay in the mixer. I don't want to have to jump somewhere else to change a take. Seems like a waste of time to me. The less jumping around the better, I think.

I can only base my requests on how I work, and I've been wanting that feature for some time now. I keep running into it time after time. So in that sense, it is well thought out, thank you. That menu is well out of the way and I don't think it would be difficult to add Takes to it. But I doubt it will happen.

[Dan Worley]

I just want the same functionality in the seq and mixer windows in regards to tracks. I hate having to switch to the mixer to solo, and the seq window to do other things. There are way too many things like this. I don’t need "add takes" in the mix window, that is an obvious seq thing to me, but many things are not specific to the functionality of one particular window.

Why can't you solo from the SE? All you do is use the command for solo and then click on any track's play button you want to solo, or option click to solo only that track.

I'm not against having a solo button in the SE, but you can solo from there now. You can't, however, change a track's take from the mixer window.

[toodamnhip]

I understand brotha,
But the point is, we ALL have our own ways of working. And if MOTU puts redundant edit menus in ALL areas to cover any possible way tens of thousands of individuals work, we will get an even slower DP.

I too wish we could have EVERY edit possibility available in any window.

And, of course, you are right about wishing to stay in the mixer window.

But stacked up against the litany of things that could be improved about DP, how important is that?
What if the next guy wants DP to focus on having "add tracks” windows available when he works in the drum edit window?

Because he always does drums and hates adding tracks and losing the drum edit window?
It goes on and on.
And DP gets slower and slower.

[toodamnhip]

I just want the same functionality in the seq and mixer windows in regards to tracks. I hate having to switch to the mixer to solo, and the seq window to do other things. There are way too many things like this. I don’t need "add takes" in the mix window, that is an obvious seq thing to me, but many things are not specific to the functionality of one particular window.

Why can't you solo from the SE? All you do is use the command for solo and then click on any track's play button you want to solo, or option click to solo only that track.

I'm not against having a solo button in the SE, but you can solo from there now. You can't, however, change a track's take from the mixer window.

I have control S set to solo, and I solo without EVER clicking a mouse.

[Dan Worley]

I understand brotha,
But the point is, we ALL have our own ways of working. And if MOTU puts redundant edit menus in ALL areas to cover any possible way tens of thousands of individuals work, we will get an even slower DP.

I too wish we could have EVERY edit possibility available in any window.

And, of course, you are right about wishing to stay in the mixer window.

But stacked up against the litany of things that could be improved about DP, how important is that?
What if the next guy wants DP to focus on having "add tracks” windows available when he works in the drum edit window?

Because he always does drums and hates adding tracks and losing the drum edit window?
It goes on and on.
And DP gets slower and slower.

Yeah, I agree about not bogging DP down with a bunch of redundancy and silly little things to make it easier on our click fingers. Sometimes I have to laugh at what we get worked up about. Not that I'm worked up about this. Damnit!

[Julia123]

3 - POLAR v2. Wait, POLAR is still in DP, right? I don't know anyone who has ever opened it and used it for anything. Sort of like the Quan Jr plugin. Just taking up space in "the code".

Hey, you dissin' Polar? I not only opened it, I use it. It's got a certain flow to it that is it's own thing. I have to stick up for it in case no one else does.

[Tripi]

3 - POLAR v2. Wait, POLAR is still in DP, right? I don't know anyone who has ever opened it and used it for anything. Sort of like the Quan Jr plugin. Just taking up space in "the code".

Hey, you dissin' Polar? I not only opened it, I use it. It's got a certain flow to it that is it's own thing. I have to stick up for it in case no one else does.

I was dissin' Polar, but now that I know someone uses it, I take it back. But I still insist we get more cowbell sounds for the click track.

[Shooshie]

I understand brotha,
But the point is, we ALL have our own ways of working. And if MOTU puts redundant edit menus in ALL areas to cover any possible way tens of thousands of individuals work, we will get an even slower DP.

I too wish we could have EVERY edit possibility available in any window.

And, of course, you are right about wishing to stay in the mixer window.

But stacked up against the litany of things that could be improved about DP, how important is that?
What if the next guy wants DP to focus on having "add tracks” windows available when he works in the drum edit window?

Because he always does drums and hates adding tracks and losing the drum edit window?
It goes on and on.
And DP gets slower and slower.

I want Continuous Data editors in the Drum Editor, for when I decide to create my violin sections in the Drum Editor. And I want to edit pitch on any track from the Groups window. And you know how there is a Movie window in DP? Well, I want an FM Radio window. …er… to hear how my mixes are going to sound on the airwaves!!

And how about a Reversi easter egg in the MIDI Graphic Editor? And email! Don't forget email!

And wheels, and a V6 engine.



And a pitcher of KoolAid.



Shooshie

[toodamnhip]

I understand brotha,
But the point is, we ALL have our own ways of working. And if MOTU puts redundant edit menus in ALL areas to cover any possible way tens of thousands of individuals work, we will get an even slower DP.

I too wish we could have EVERY edit possibility available in any window.

And, of course, you are right about wishing to stay in the mixer window.

But stacked up against the litany of things that could be improved about DP, how important is that?
What if the next guy wants DP to focus on having "add tracks” windows available when he works in the drum edit window?

Because he always does drums and hates adding tracks and losing the drum edit window?
It goes on and on.
And DP gets slower and slower.

I want Continuous Data editors in the Drum Editor, for when I decide to create my violin sections in the Drum Editor. And I want to edit pitch on any track from the Groups window. And you know how there is a Movie window in DP? Well, I want an FM Radio window. …er… to hear how my mixes are going to sound on the airwaves!!

And how about a Reversi easter egg in the MIDI Graphic Editor? And email! Don't forget email!

And wheels, and a V6 engine.



And a pitcher of KoolAid.



Shooshie

+1000..
I want editable girlfriends in all windows for the times mine is being difficult...., blond, brunette, red head...and , of course, for any women on the forum, yes, you can have the male version for when your sig other is being the same.......
Would this make DP slower?...

[NeilBlack]

I'm with you on the Polar thing too - use it a lot, old habits etc. You can do the same thing with takes but Polar has it's own vibe. I made a request about 10 yrs ago that an option to incorporate some kind of preset for Volume and Pans was made available, that would really speed up things for me as I often use it for layering parts - fell on deaf ears of course..

[Prime Mover]

This is why most of my wishes are interface related, not engine related. New features that simply increase productivity on old operations. DPs engine is fabulous, I don't really want that monkey'd with. I don't think there's any harm in adding new kinds of editing and productivity features though, especially if they're in menus or out-of-the-way widgets.

[toodamnhip]

This is why most of my wishes are interface related, not engine related. New features that simply increase productivity on old operations. DPs engine is fabulous, I don't really want that monkey'd with. I don't think there's any harm in adding new kinds of editing and productivity features though, especially if they're in menus or out-of-the-way widgets.

There are many nice things about DP 8..true.
But the engine is “fabulous”?....

Put 10 heavy duty VIs in DP and put 10 in Vienna Inst Pro and see which crashes and burns.
Without Vienna Pro to hold my VI’s DP would be a basket case.
Sorry, not fabulous. A nice update, yes indeed. But there is much room for improvement.

[Michael Canavan]

+1000 on being able to mute MIDI notes.

The other one would be MIDI out from soft instruments.

Object oriented MIDI editing in the Tracks Overview, instead of the parsing done by DP allow the user to cut, glue and grab MIDI data..