So when are you going to upgrade to DP8??

[kgdrum]

I reversed Carbon & Cocoa in my previous post as almost always! lol
Am I the only person that never remembers Cocoa is the new thing, not Carbon?

[Dan Worley]

Anyway, now that the biggest project in DP's history is done, our requests may get some programming time. This could be a very productive era for all of us.

This is what I was thinking, too. At first I was underwhelmed by the DP8 upgrade. I'll never run DP on Windows. I already have a ton of plug-ins so the new ones don't excite me all that much (not that I'll mind getting them), and, frankly, though I need for MOTU to succeed in the marketplace and keep DP alive and well, it doesn't really occupy my thoughts, so I wasn't that excited about the business side of it.

Then I became aware that this is quite possibly the biggest step in DP's history. It will most likely lead to additional features and fixes that have been needed for quite some time, not to mention all the features to come that are as of yet unimagined. All this can now come very quickly, indeed. It's an exciting time.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Anyway, now that the biggest project in DP's history is done

You mean that 10,000 track deal...

[Dan Worley]

Anyway, now that the biggest project in DP's history is done

You mean that 10,000 track deal...

[James Steele]

Anyway, now that the biggest project in DP's history is done

You mean that 10,000 track deal...

Too many tracks. Must face!

[jloeb]

Anyway, now that the biggest project in DP's history is done

You mean that 10,000 track deal...

Too many tracks. Must face!

Thank god for track folders.

[tigerjj]

I'll order a DP8.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I could have had a V8!

[zed]

Does MOTU allow for pre-orders? I can't remember. I would pre-order if I could.

And can we expect to pay using PayPal? I hope so. It's a drag having to use a credit card for anything online these days. Not only is it a security risk, but for those of use outside the US, you end up getting dinged extra because of the exchange rate... and it is always a worse rate than it should be.

In any case, I need to leave enough in my PayPal account to cover this purchase, if indeed I can pay with that method.

I've always considered MachFive to be the "other half" of DP.

I take what you've been saying about this to heart and I really want to get in on MachFive and Electric Keys. But I would really like MOTU to offer some financial incentives. I have so much of that stuff covered already. I need to feel that I'm getting a really good deal on these products in order to take on all the additional duplication of instruments in my VI library.

[kgdrum]

I've always considered MachFive to be the "other half" of DP.

I take what you've been saying about this to heart and I really want to get in on MachFive and Electric Keys. But I would really like MOTU to offer some financial incentives. I have so much of that stuff covered already. I need to feel that I'm getting a really good deal on these products in order to take on all the additional duplication of instruments in my VI library.

+1
if Motu had some kind of special pricing on these for DP users, I think more users would buy, myself included.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Ladies, ladies, ladies...

MachFive is not just an extension of DP. It is a completely different piece of software and worth every penny. Don't buy it if you don't need it, but don't expect MOTU to hand it to you. It cost money to develop.

It is totally awesome. I use it every day for a wide variety of functions and never regretted for one second buying it. I gives me a major edge in my work and cuts some of my tasks, literally, by hours and makes some edits possible that I could never do before. It literally paid for itself the first week I had it (all versions).

My clients only care about results, not how much my software cost me, and I care about how much time I need to spend on a particular tasks, especially in the mundane world of editing someone else's audio. If that means I spend $500 on MachFive it is well worth it.

You can bite you nose as long as you want, but the fact is that by delaying or not purchasing that software, you are denying yourself one of the most powerful editing tools you can imagine. That's OK with me as I may end up with some of your work. In fact, no... don't buy it, just send your toughest problems to me and I'll pay for Machfive for the 1000th time.

[zed]

I guess I don't know that much about MachFive. I just think of it as another Virtual Instrument, and I'm not sure what kind of powerful editing features you are talking about. I suppose I should spend some more time going through the videos on the MOTU YouTube Channel. I bookmarked the page but didn't really begin watching them much.

If you have an example or two of some of the favorite things you can do with MachFive that is unique and powerful, I would really like to be turned on.

But I'm sure that there is already a wealth of such information in this forum. I must do some more exploration. Now you've got me thinking "what am I missing?"

[kgdrum]

Not talking about giving it away, just some kind of incentive pricing for DP owners.
As it is, as good as Mach 5 might be, it could only help Motu gain more of a market presence,if they had more users.
Yes products cost $$ to develop, if they discounted these by $100 and added 2000 + users, it could only help with their share of the market and bring more revenue their way & more exposure.
As it is now, like it or not they are competing with Kontakt which has become the standard, we all have agreed many times that Motu makes great products & if they ever fall short in most users eyes it's the approach they take with marketing these great products.
Why not have a Motu Komplete, how could it not be win, win?

[zed]

Yeah! What he said.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

I can't answer the marketing aspect, but let me give Zed a couple of examples...

1- I still work with dancers quite a bit. Let's say they have a song they choreographed and it comes in a 126 bpm. They have a school full of pre-teens who cannot muster that speed so they need it at 118 but it still needs to sound great. IRCAM stretch to the rescue. PERFECT!

2- My wife teaches 4th grade and being a theater person and dancer in her former life, directs some of the school theatrical productions. The songs in the show are in Bb but the kids need to sing it in D with maybe an increase in speed! IRCAM again.

3- I design sound. I need a giant sized door to hell for Eurydice. I take a file cabinet, play it at 2 or 3 octaves below the original pitch and wham, you're in hell and no nasty artifacts!

4- I'm looking for a patch. I know I have about a half second of music that is exactly what I need, but how do you take a 1.2 second and make it loop nicely into a lush pad? IRCAM Granular.

5- I need Darth Vader for a commercial or a dinosaur roar. I can literally take Mini Mouse and make Vader or turn a dormouse into a T-Rex.

So what, you might say, these are just tricks. Well, yes, they are fancy, schmancy manipulations but people pay me to do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU3jWSudTQE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Go to about 2:16 to 2:26 if nothing else. You can freeze those sounds and make them into pads! So what? So now every sound you have is a potential patch. Every orchestral cluster can be frozen into a patch and used with perfect intonation. Un-effin-limited patches.

Not enough? I have not touched the arpeggiator, of the Telematic guitar, or the scripting, or some of the awesome sounds that come with MachFive.

Did I mention the standalone version is 64 bit and the new plugs will be (if they are not already?) I have a little problem with the new update. It is NOT perfect and I get hung notes. 3.0.1 is perfect, IMO and I can wait for MOTU to fix 3.0.3.

See what I'm sayin? Yeah, I can bite my nose and hold my breath until I turn blue, but I prefer to bite the bullet and open my wallet to let some of that green in!