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Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 7:45 am
by HCMarkus
Hi There!

I'm pretty sure your M1 MacBook Air has 256GB SSD Storage and 8TB RAM.

It should work great with the M6. The M6 does not require 500GB storage!

As you work with audio, you will quickly fill your internal SSD (no matter what audio interface you use). However, it is easy to add external storage. Given the limited size of your Air's internal SSD, I'd recommend you look into external storage right away, and that you use external storage for all audio files and VI samples.

Install only your apps on the internal SSD and minimize storage of documents and photos there. I have an M1 Air (I use it for live performance with Apple's Main Stage) with 1TB internal storage. Mac OS takes up about 50GB of space. Messages and Email will take some space. If you start adding audio files and VI samples, you can quickly exhaust your 256GB.

I am running several external SSDs in my studio. I chose $90 OWC Envoy Express Thunderbolt enclosures and $130 Samsung 2TB 970EVO Plus NVMe SSDs, but there are many other options as well. For me, the Envoy/Samsung combination has proven very solid. You will find adding external storage is much less expensive than buying more storage from Apple at the time of computer purchase.

If you get an external drive, you will also need a USB Hub to connect power and your audio interface. I have been using these with my MacBook Air for well over a year:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SV ... UTF8&psc=1

Lastly, you should also look into backup for your Mac. Time Machine works great with any hard drive. Cloud-based backup is also a good thing; I use BackBlaze.

Have fun!

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 8:29 am
by bayswater
mrstorm wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:00 am To my deep concern I read somewhere, that Motu M6 require 500 GB storage
Where did you see that? Certainly not true. It might require 1 MB for a driver. As Mr Markus suggests, you will probably want external drives. My main setup has an internal drive of 256GB. I have several DAWs and other design apps on it that take up about half of that. I use it for the current projects, but keep all inactive projects and sample libraries on external drives.
My bet is that your 8GB RAM is more likely to be a limiting factor than the 256G storage.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Tue May 09, 2023 2:48 pm
by mikehalloran
mrstorm wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 12:00 am Motu M6 - Storage requirements 500 GB ?
It would be interesting to see the context. If you have a link, please post it so that we can read.

That said, 500GB would not be a bad minimum recommendation, Mac or Windows after you factor in the System overhead, browser(s), most types of apps that people use, Performer Lite or DP with its VI library from UVI plus the optional loops packages, a decent sized music library etc.. Plus, you are going to be recording and making music, right?

None of that is necessary for any interface to run, however.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:20 pm
by mrstorm
From Motus homepage - Specs - System Requirements :

System Requirements
Mac System Requirements Intel Core i3 Mac or faster (including Apple silicon Macs)
4 GB RAM; 8 GB or more recommended
macOS version 10.11 or later
(Optional driver requires 10.13 or later)
Available USB port
A large hard drive (at least 500 GB for recording)


Here it is - from Motu's Spec's on Motu's discription of the M6 on the website.
They mean probably it take some space, if you are gonna install all the extras (librarys, instruments, Digital Performer, Ableton Lite).

I just bought the thing, received it today, have registrered and installed the driver, and tomorrow I'll probably do some recording.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 2:48 pm
by mrstorm
Thank you for all of your replies. Surely helped.
I just bought the M6 machine and received it today.
Good looking and solid made, I really look forward to work with it.
One thing I liked - a small thing, but anyway - The package contained both a usb-a/usb-c lead, and a usb-c/usb-c lead.
Different with the Uad Volt line, where you have to buy usb-c/usb-c separately.

I have an external harddisk - small one, 500GB, and that will do for now.
Once more - thanks.
& once, when I get more experienced on this, I hope, I will be able to give advice myself to newcomers.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 5:51 pm
by bayswater
mrstorm wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:20 pm A large hard drive (at least 500 GB for recording)[/b]

Here it is - from Motu's Spec's on Motu's discription of the M6 on the website.
They mean probably it take some space, if you are gonna install all the extras (librarys, instruments, Digital Performer, Ableton Lite).
Thanks for posting that. No doubt 500G is good, but to say it’s a minimum is misleading. And it doesn’t necessarily refer to an internal drive. I’ll be interested to hear what you thing about the M6 when you’ve used it for a while. I’m still looking for something with better D/A that’s dependable.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Fri May 12, 2023 8:29 pm
by mikehalloran
A large hard drive (at least 500 GB for recording)
Read my earlier post. That is only a recommendation because they assume you will actually use it, not a requirement.

There are a number of Macs from the last 10 years with drives as small as 128GB. The M6 will work with those, too — just won't have much room on the drive for the music you are creating.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 3:10 am
by Guitar Gaz
There seems to be some confusion by reviewers as to the mains supply - some say it only operates with mains power, some say it can do either bus power or mains power. Anyone have any idea what it correct? Even ChatGPT didn't really know! I would like to know in case I buy this M6 or the M4.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 4:55 am
by tremo
Guitar Gaz wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 3:10 am There seems to be some confusion by reviewers as to the mains supply - some say it only operates with mains power, some say it can do either bus power or mains power. Anyone have any idea what it correct? Even ChatGPT didn't really know! I would like to know in case I buy this M6 or the M4.
Both the M4 and the M6 can be bus powered over USB-C. The M6 also has a jack for powering via an external DC adapter, whereas the M4 doesn't have that option.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 6:17 am
by Guitar Gaz
tremo wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 4:55 am Both the M4 and the M6 can be bus powered over USB-C. The M6 also has a jack for powering via an external DC adapter, whereas the M4 doesn't have that option.
Thanks

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 9:05 am
by mikehalloran
All the M2/M4 bus powered complaints I’ve seen are with iPadOS and the right powered hub makes that a non-issue. Mac/Win computers have been ok.

The M6 may be bus or externally powered.
Even ChatGPT didn't really know
I guess that’s why they call it artificial intelligence. :lol: (Sorry, couldn’t resist)

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 11:01 am
by Guitar Gaz
mikehalloran wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 9:05 am All the M2/M4 bus powered complaints I’ve seen are with iPadOS and the right powered hub makes that a non-issue. Mac/Win computers have been ok.

The M6 may be bus or externally powered.
Even ChatGPT didn't really know
I guess that’s why they call it artificial intelligence. :lol: (Sorry, couldn’t resist)
Thanks Mike - it made me laugh that ChatGPT took three attempts to come up with the answer, having apologised for the errors in the previous answers. I suppose it is a step up from HAL in admitting mistakes.

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 11:28 am
by James Steele
Guitar Gaz wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:01 amI suppose it is a step up from HAL in admitting mistakes.
I still would not count on it to open the pod bay doors. :lol:

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 4:43 pm
by Guitar Gaz
James Steele wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:28 am
Guitar Gaz wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 11:01 amI suppose it is a step up from HAL in admitting mistakes.
I still would not count on it to open the pod bay doors. :lol:
:lol:

Re: MOTU M6

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:45 pm
by rockitcity
Hello all,

I haven't been here in a while, but still a MOTU user. I found out yesterday that one of my interfaces (828 MkII Firewire) is not recognized by Zoom for streaming. Apparently Zoom requires a USB interface. Probably should have checked this out a long time ago, but haven't been using it recently. Anyway, thinking about getting an M6 to use with my Macbook Pro (2016 model) with Thunderbolt/USB-C ports.

Question: Does the M6 come with Cue Mix FX? I don't see that listed in the description. If not, is there a way to have FX (EQ and Reverb or Delay specifically) "in the box?" I would like to have those features available for live streams. Would I have to route the signal through Performer Lite or some other application to have access to FX for a live mix?

Thanks for any help or other solutions suggestions!