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Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:42 am
by MW1
mikehalloran wrote:You have access to the original drives? Try this.

Zip the project file on the original drive. Do one at first.
Copy it to your current Mac.
Unzip the file and open within DP 10.

You might get some errors about missing plugins while other functionality now belongs to the Trim plug. Otherwise, it should open.

A couple of my projects did not behave but most did when I tried the above. I have a couple other things to try.

When this happened to me, MOTU support told me that my files were corrupted which was not the case.

Let us know what happens.
Mike,

I've actually found the original bare 3.5inch drives which I had pulled out of the old G5 tower.

Would I be able to install the drives in an external enclosure to access the files and do the ZIP procedure you outline above? I'm on OS 10.14.6 - would drives that old still mount and be readable?

I would need to buy the enclosure but I'm guessing any standard 3.5 inch USB enclosure would be OK.

Do you think this is worth a shot?

Many thanks for any advice.

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:13 am
by sg335man
There’s few things you may do and consider. I can only speak about Opening in DP10 and what finally worked. I would think the drives should mount? If not your into another problems? Regardless I guess the formatting is “extended journaled” one way to find out? As to opening the flies, I would try and open. If no go then this is what I did and all is well.

1. Check the project file has a ext? If not rename the file with .dp10doc.
2. Check your audio files play via finder iTunes whatever.
3. Create a new project in DP10
4. Go to files/load, open your new named project file with the ext.
5. When the file opens a window asks if you want to import audio soundbites etc. Say No
6. In my case the sequence opened with all MIDI and markers etc.

I was then able to drag in all my audio files....If I had done a lot of editing, I always bounced to disk a new audio soundbite. That now makes life easy to find and drag into your seq. You could try audio import but it’s only going to put the files in the Soundbite window or folder. I have yet to find away of getting the audio back into the seq, in the right order other than what I have said.

I tried everything that was proposed here but this worked for me. Good Luck

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:31 am
by bayswater
MW1 wrote:Would I be able to install the drives in an external enclosure to access the files and do the ZIP procedure you outline above? I'm on OS 10.14.6 - would drives that old still mount and be readable?

I would need to buy the enclosure but I'm guessing any standard 3.5 inch USB enclosure would be OK.
First, you might want to look for one of the old portable floppy drives. I have one originally made as an option for Dell laptops. It plugs into any powered USB port and on a Mac, a floppy appears like any external volume when inserted, and I can even read old DOS formatted Atari disks. I got it in small computer repair shop for about $10. These appear at Amazon for about $20.

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:44 am
by sg335man
I would check out something like this, it will deal with SATA connections or spend more money on a Dock. OWC and others have them.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3846996345

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3552588399

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:58 pm
by MW1
bayswater wrote: First, you might want to look for one of the old portable floppy drives. I have one originally made as an option for Dell laptops. It plugs into any powered USB port and on a Mac, a floppy appears like any external volume when inserted, and I can even read old DOS formatted Atari disks. I got it in small computer repair shop for about $10. These appear at Amazon for about $20.
Thank you for the suggestion but the files are not on floppy disks - they're on SATA 3.5 hard drives which I had pulled out of the old G5.

sg335man's idea of a SATA to USB converter might do the trick but I was originally looking at something like this:

https://tinyurl.com/yy6qeu2a

Not sure which is the better option but thank you both for your suggestions.

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:06 pm
by sg335man
Flexibility is the key? But as long as you can connect, to your computer it does not matter. You don’t need a case. I have both and love Dock but it’s expensive especially Thunderbolt but you may not need that. Floppy Disk Hum

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:40 pm
by bayswater
MW1 wrote:
bayswater wrote: First, you might want to look for one of the old portable floppy drives. I have one originally made as an option for Dell laptops. It plugs into any powered USB port and on a Mac, a floppy appears like any external volume when inserted, and I can even read old DOS formatted Atari disks. I got it in small computer repair shop for about $10. These appear at Amazon for about $20.
Thank you for the suggestion but the files are not on floppy disks - they're on SATA 3.5 hard drives which I had pulled out of the old G5.

sg335man's idea of a SATA to USB converter might do the trick but I was originally looking at something like this:

https://tinyurl.com/yy6qeu2a

Not sure which is the better option but thank you both for your suggestions.
Sorry to misread. Another thing I got from the same place is a universal hard drive adaptor kit going from 2.5" or 3.5" IDE or SATA to USB2. One here for under $20. (Picture doesn't show it but mine came with a power supply.)
https://www.newegg.com/bytecc-bt-300-us ... 6812156102
Handy to have around for things like this.

Re: DP 10 Opening Older Files

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:40 pm
by txa1265
sg335man wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:13 am 1. Check the project file has a ext? If not rename the file with .dp10doc.
Very late to the party, but I have been updating old stuff I haven't touched in a while, and going through my 'ideas' folders ... and this was VERY helpful!

For reference, these files were created in the early to mid 90s, and many not touched since then! So this was on regular Performer (i.e. NOT DP) probably v5-ish.

Adding '.dpdoc' made things open perfectly fine!

So thanks for the help!