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Sir WhiteApple wrote:well..i'm a student and dont have this app on my mac...on school there are just a manual and they cant give me many time with the manual (and i will not copy that). I also cant afford the app right now..so i'm going to buy a book that will help but it will take a few days..=/

I'm going to step out at the risk of having my beak knocked off---

But Sir WhiteApple feels sincere and not like a lot of others whose intentions and motives are less than honorable. I also get the sense that English is not his first language, but his English is better than any of my second languages.

As a student, I was so broke that there were things available for FREE that I couldn't afford-- in a manner of speaking. Maybe I'm being sympathetic to a fault, but I want to see if there's any way to still help and support Sir WhiteApple.

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Knowing that money is not always a free-flowing commodity these days, it may be possible to write to MOTU for the manual. If nothing else, MOTU could authorize some approach where having a manual to study for a student who has limited access to a carefully-guarded manual closely attached to the class and the professor teaching the course.

We KNOW that surrendering the manual to third-parties is a questionable pursuit. However, we also know that professors can be stubborn and unsympathetic. Perhaps if MOTU could just verify the institution, the validity of the version of DP in use at that institution, and the status of the OP's student status that there might be SOME way of accommodating a genuine need.

Failing that, here is a list of some third-party resources that are currently available:

https://www.motu.com/store_products/acc ... iolab-dvd/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.amazon.com/Producing-Digital ... 876&sr=1-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.tutorialdepot.com/index2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.soundonsound.com/articles/Di ... former.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There are also various books and tutorials floating around for DP5 & 6, fwiw.

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Even with the DP manual in hand, it remains a challenge at times to reconcile menu terms like "stop sounding notes" with "panic", or with "pre-render" and "real-time" where these and many other terms are freely swapped under certain circumstances.

I guess what I'm getting at is that there must still be a way to help people here on this forum-- even newbies-- in a way that doesn't break any rules and yet doesn't alienate or intimidate the sincerest of users. Not everyone is honest, but because one bad apple can indeed spoil the bunch, those with a tenable desire to learn can suffer because of veteran trepidation. I'm well aware that it's extremely difficult to pick the sincere from the trolls. One troll can wreck everything all too easily.

I've been in that position many, many times where a legit question was shot down (just look at my post count!!)--- and it remains a bit of a gray area, and understandably so, where knowing how to help and how not to help is concerned.

I'm not unaware of the importance to challenge new comers to a forum like this to verify the legitimacy of their intent. Neither am I oblivious to the need for new comers to do their homework-- but there really *is* a middle ground (a Middle-earth?) where those seeking help are no more certain of the kind of help they need than they are with how to ask for it.

I just know that I came here "barefooted with little more than the green cloak on my back". My first post wasn't well received and I knew I had to earn my cred. Once done, it became all about giving back because I can never forget the feeling of being at once legit AND lost.

There are a lot of Frodo's out there, and I feel for them even as I have no stomach for pirates. But distinguishing the pirates and trolls from those who are genuinely in trouble remains my unresolvable conundrum.

+1 to all that Frodo said!

Shooshie

thanks a lot! you post was a really good thing for me...in fact i well share a little things you..
no english are really not my mother language..it is the second language by means of american culture that i absorb every day (movies, music, books, technology...what else?..) in fact a lot of my english have been earned because my heart is in jazz music (the 60s) and all the material wish i workout is in english. I will not say that my parents can't pay this software..the may pay...but i will not ask...they already do a lot for me.. they already pay a lot of things in my formation...so.. in relation to the manual..there are no student discount (at least in my country)..by the way.. i'm european..

so o mornings i've classes..afternoon i play music (that's my student work and because of the noise this must be the time to practice)..at night i study DP and audio digital..so i don't have much time to get with the manual...still..

the book i said is 'Digital performer 6 power' by don barrett.. is this good tell details? i searched inside in amazon and it liked so..

thanks man really

i also forgot to say that james forgot one thing...no one like to ask dummie questions...
but some times we need to..even when we know that's stupid..

Hey-- Sir WhiteApple:

In what country are located?

What version of DP (6) do you use?

What is your computer model?

What version of OSX do you use?

Sir WhiteApple wrote:
the book i said is 'Digital performer 6 power' by don barrett.. is this good tell details? i searched inside in amazon and it liked so..

That book is very good. However, I would look at the tutorial DVDs. The visual demonstrations are wonderful. The benefit of having images to see makes up for any gaps in language fluency.

Hyperteach is one that has some free samples online:
http://www.hyperteach.com/products/digi ... deo-cd.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's another:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DigPerf6DVD" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Once again, here's the series endorsed by MOTU:
http://www.macaudiolab.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm still lurking bestservice.de for more information regarding European customers, but I'm not sure of which vendors are trustworthy in other parts of Europe.