I'm going to step out at the risk of having my beak knocked off---Sir WhiteApple wrote:well..i'm a student and dont have this app on my mac...on school there are just a manual and they cant give me many time with the manual (and i will not copy that). I also cant afford the app right now..so i'm going to buy a book that will help but it will take a few days..=/
But Sir WhiteApple feels sincere and not like a lot of others whose intentions and motives are less than honorable. I also get the sense that English is not his first language, but his English is better than any of my second languages.
As a student, I was so broke that there were things available for FREE that I couldn't afford-- in a manner of speaking. Maybe I'm being sympathetic to a fault, but I want to see if there's any way to still help and support Sir WhiteApple.
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Knowing that money is not always a free-flowing commodity these days, it may be possible to write to MOTU for the manual. If nothing else, MOTU could authorize some approach where having a manual to study for a student who has limited access to a carefully-guarded manual closely attached to the class and the professor teaching the course.
We KNOW that surrendering the manual to third-parties is a questionable pursuit. However, we also know that professors can be stubborn and unsympathetic. Perhaps if MOTU could just verify the institution, the validity of the version of DP in use at that institution, and the status of the OP's student status that there might be SOME way of accommodating a genuine need.
Failing that, here is a list of some third-party resources that are currently available:
https://www.motu.com/store_products/acc ... iolab-dvd/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.amazon.com/Producing-Digital ... 876&sr=1-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.tutorialdepot.com/index2.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.soundonsound.com/articles/Di ... former.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are also various books and tutorials floating around for DP5 & 6, fwiw.
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Even with the DP manual in hand, it remains a challenge at times to reconcile menu terms like "stop sounding notes" with "panic", or with "pre-render" and "real-time" where these and many other terms are freely swapped under certain circumstances.
I guess what I'm getting at is that there must still be a way to help people here on this forum-- even newbies-- in a way that doesn't break any rules and yet doesn't alienate or intimidate the sincerest of users. Not everyone is honest, but because one bad apple can indeed spoil the bunch, those with a tenable desire to learn can suffer because of veteran trepidation. I'm well aware that it's extremely difficult to pick the sincere from the trolls. One troll can wreck everything all too easily.
I've been in that position many, many times where a legit question was shot down (just look at my post count!!)--- and it remains a bit of a gray area, and understandably so, where knowing how to help and how not to help is concerned.
I'm not unaware of the importance to challenge new comers to a forum like this to verify the legitimacy of their intent. Neither am I oblivious to the need for new comers to do their homework-- but there really *is* a middle ground (a Middle-earth?) where those seeking help are no more certain of the kind of help they need than they are with how to ask for it.
I just know that I came here "barefooted with little more than the green cloak on my back". My first post wasn't well received and I knew I had to earn my cred. Once done, it became all about giving back because I can never forget the feeling of being at once legit AND lost.
There are a lot of Frodo's out there, and I feel for them even as I have no stomach for pirates. But distinguishing the pirates and trolls from those who are genuinely in trouble remains my unresolvable conundrum.
