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Re: Apple iPad

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It's a dedicated device to read MOTUNation :) .

Actually, I think the ibooks and eReader grab me a lot, as I love to read, but don't like paying the price for a newly released hardcover book. Over time, this thing would actually save money if someone buys a lot of books :) .
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Re: Apple iPad

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I've seen enough (and used enough) control surfaces to see the enormous potential
for this.
Using it in place of a Lemur for starters..
Controller for DP, etc....Now if somebody could write an app for that!
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Where is Sixstringgeek? Time to make some $$ on this one :-). Sure wish I knew how to write code....
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Re: Apple iPad

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Well, what I'm beginning to understand from some people is that iPhone apps are supposed to work with the iPad right from the get go. And there's already some controller software out there for the iPhone that could work right off the bat apparently. The developer would just have to modify the code so that instead of just getting an extra large iPhone screen where everything is just bigger, you'd get an expanded screen with more faders, etc.

Check out these guys:

http://www.folabs.com/proremote.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On their specs page (http://www.folabs.com/proremotespecs.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) it says this:
We now officially support Apple Logic, Mackie Control Protocol, Ableton Live and Soundtrack Pro. ProRemote should work with virtually any Mackie Control host. Only the hosts listed above have been tested to work completely.. Windows not supported yet, sorry. Mac only!
So in theory it should work with DP as a Mackie Control I guess. There's a server app you put on your DAW computer and then their app is $99 at the iTunes App store.

Still... it should be relatively easy for them to update it for the iPad and then you'd have a pretty slick control surface for less than a MC Mix or MC Control, and on top of it, you get ALL THE OTHER STUFF IT DOES!

One thing though is that if you were going to really depend on it as a control surface, I'm not sure it would be as responsive or have as fine control as either of those Euphonix devices.
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FYI some discussion on their forum about official DP6 support:

http://bit.ly/c7p4jj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I let them know we're up to 7.1 and that a lot of folks on this forum might be hot and bothered for their app if they supported DP and it was available for the iPad.
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James Steele wrote:FYI some discussion on their forum about official DP6 support:

http://bit.ly/c7p4jj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I let them know we're up to 7.1 and that a lot of folks on this forum might be hot and bothered for their app if they supported DP and it was available for the iPad.
Definitely me! :) Oh man, yet another thing on the gear lust list...
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Well... i took the plunge and bought the cheaper of their apps, Pro Transport for $7.99. Can't get it to work with DP7, but then again it's not officially supported so I can't blame them. I installed their ProRemote Control server on my DAW machine (this is the software on your DAW that is suppose to work with all their various iPhone apps). I can't find anything in the list of Control Surfaces, but I know that needs a special bundle to be installed. I chose "Mackie Control" and then looked for their software to show up as a MIDI source but nothing there either.

Irony is I already had full transport control from an iPhone with the Number Key app:

http://www.balmuda.com/en/laboratory/numberkey/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It works great with the iPhone and DP and you can do the "dot" trick and all the transport functions you could do with the numeric keypad.
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jlaudon wrote:
James Steele wrote:FYI some discussion on their forum about official DP6 support:

http://bit.ly/c7p4jj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I let them know we're up to 7.1 and that a lot of folks on this forum might be hot and bothered for their app if they supported DP and it was available for the iPad.
Definitely me! :) Oh man, yet another thing on the gear lust list...
By the way, if some of us have time, it might not hurt our cause to take a few minutes and register at their forum and ask for DP support... let them know we're here just like S.O.S. was reminded. :lol:
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Hold the bus... partial success now with this ProRemote server and the ProTransport iPhone app. I'll open up a new thread if I get it figured out. For now though, play, stop, rec, scrub and some other things are working. Best of all the measure/beats/ticks display is shown on the iPhone too. Cool beans.

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Seems to be some problems here. It's supposed to work as a Mackie Control, but a lot of the functions aren't working right and not sure. I'm going to let Far Out Labs (developer) know first about the trick of creating a MIDI device in AMS and then connecting it's ins and outs to the ins and outs of the device that shows up automatically. If you don't do this, you can't choose a MIDI port of the "virtual Mackie Control" which is the ProRemote device. Oy!
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Re: Apple iPad

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Apple iPad is another reason why we need the DP manual in PDF format.

The main use I will have for this product, at first, is as a mobile reader. There are always lots of manuals and eBooks to read, and don't like being stuck to the computer.
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Agreed on the mobile reader idea. I see Kindle sales taking a
big hit from the i-Pad.

My parents, both in their late 80's, would probably love the
i-Pad. They have a 2008 i-Mac, but it is too much computer for
them - they only use it for e-mail and i-Chat. They both still love
to read magazines and newspapers so I think they could figure out
how to do that with the i-Pad.

Certainly, watching video on an i-Phone is a joke. When I first
got an i-Phone I accessed the web just because it was a novelty
to do so, but I don't bother now because of the slow load times
and tiny screen. An i-Pad would make the experience bearable.

It's a lot easier to use than any PC notebook or web-book. I believe
it will sell enough for Apple to make a profit. I'm stopping short of
calling it a game changer right now.

It does bring us that much closer to the Star Trek universe -
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Re: Apple iPad

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JaaduVNC is the one for the iPad (€19.99). You get the full screen of your Mac remotely on your iPhone (wifi or internet) with total control of your machine and software, including remote Copy & Paste.

You can either control the Mac's cursor in standard or reverse mode, or use the touch-screen, selecting and opening files with taps and double-taps. With keyboard and full access to modifier keys. Pinch to zoom. Admittedly, with a 30" screen you have to do the odd bit of zooming (!!!) on the iPhone. But put this on an iPad and you'll never have to get out of bed to go to work. :)

If you just need transport control, then (as James wrote earlier) NumberKey is the business. Air Mouse Pro (€1.59) offers more, including a number pad. For some reason, however, the dot trick doesn't seem to work in the latest update of this, although all the other numbers do what they're supposed to in DP. That said, I haven't had the time to add DP to the Air Mouse server app's list of controlled programs (each app can have eight media keys and eight custom keys assigned). So maybe this user is the problem :)

For me, the iPad is going to be the ultimate remote control wifi device. All the rest of it is just icing on the cake.

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As soon as i saw the actual form factor of this thing, I started thinking about a big touchscreen next to my keyboard to control macros in DP. I have an x-keys stick right now, and I use it constantly with DP to do macros through quickeys. If I could program an app for an iPad, it would just be a scaleable grid of buttons to trigger macros in DP. All labeled with what they do (I have a terrible memory for my keyboard shortcuts). Maybe a couple of filters for seeing just quantize commands, transport commands, mixing commands.

I know a composer who built something like this for logic using a custom touchscreen controller with macros in it's internal memory. It cost thousdands of dollars to make... and didn't particularly looks so great. $500 for a touchscreen remote to add to DP sounds great to me. Being able to pick it up and read in my hammock (studio B) sounds awesome.

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jlaudon wrote:Where is Sixstringgeek? Time to make some $$ on this one :-). Sure wish I knew how to write code....
What's it worth to you? :-)

I'm busy coding iPhone apps right now. Somebody design it and I'll consider doing a remote controller over local wifi.
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SixStringGeek wrote: What's it worth to you? :-)

I'm busy coding iPhone apps right now. Somebody design it and I'll consider doing a remote controller over local wifi.

I would consider pitching in. I worked as a graphic designer for several years before my composing career. Definitely would be worth it to me to invest some time in helping design it. I wouldn't mind at least brainstorming on some ideas.......... it would be a great excuse (to tell my wife) to buy one.
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