Soundtrack Pro and Digital Performer... Anyone use this?

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Re: Soundtrack Pro and Digital Performer... Anyone use this?

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Originally posted by Shooshie:
Before everyone runs out and spends an unnecessary $300, go read the forums. I read the one Jim referred me to at Apple, and another at OSX Audio (the applications forum), and the experiences reported by others have certainly cooled my jets on the idea for now. I may still get it in a few days, but I'd sure like to see some reports come in that Apple has fixed some bugs.

Here are some SoundTrack Pro issues I've seen reported commonly in the forums so far:

1) Crashes. A LOT.
2) Does not audition all loop libraries easily as the original SoundTrack did. Apparently, it does great with Apple loops, but not with Acid, or something like that.
3) Noise Reduction leaves significant artifacts. At least one person has said that SoundSoap does a much better job, though I'm not convinced based on just one report. You know how forums can be. If everyone says the same thing... then I'd be inclined to believe it.
4) does not open dual-mono SDII files. That's a bummer for us DP users. But we can export to something that it DOES open, and then import those back as necessary. It's just inconvenient; not a deal-killer.
5) various other issues ranging from lag to bugs to instability.

So, I'm still awaiting some encouraging words about Noise Removal, but at this point I'm guessing that it's not going to put Waves out of business.

Shooshie
Well, I ordered the upgrade already- will let you know as soon as I get here and put it through the paces if any of the original soundtrack features are diminished.- the original definitely does great w/ acid loops, does not crash at all, and indeed does not open SDII files- its definitely worth the $200 and if the pro features are somewhat decent it will be worth the oher 100
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Re: Soundtrack Pro and Digital Performer... Anyone use this?

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Well, since you're already doing it, I'm gonna wait and see how you like it before I do it. Tell me how it goes with the Acid Loops, and whether it seems to be a drawback, or if it is easily worked around.

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Re: Soundtrack Pro and Digital Performer... Anyone use this?

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should have it sometime next week- hey Shooshie, just did a showcase with the musical in the ibook at a fancy venue, Omni Hotel In Los Angeles- the whole nine yards, 8 dancers a couple musicicians and of course the show in the ibook w/ an 828 mkii- at first I got a scare when I was setting it up- the ibook got really jerky with the external drive but I changed the firewire cable and then everything was cool- This is the third show we've done so far and its great! We have another show tonight, though, and after the firewire cable scare I'm thinking about ways to back up the show. I am also going to put it in the desktop so that if the firewire issue comes up again I can run the show from the desktop- I know its a slower drive but the first show demo (three songs only) was done that way with no issues. I'm also taking along the show tracks in CD- hey, better than nothing! I'm thinking, though, that when we find a semi-permanent home for this show I am gonna need another ibook for back up- what do you think?
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Re: Soundtrack Pro and Digital Performer... Anyone use this?

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Absolutely. And it's good that you thought of it. Redundancy is essential, I think. I did a very simple form of redundancy. I had a separate MIDI Time Piece and computer, with identical setup and files, running and booted. If at any point the show failed (and it never did)I had the option of either reconnecting the gear to the other MTP, or of swapping the USB/serial lines from MTP to Mac, and continuing, whichever was faster and appropriate for the situation. I rehearsed the swap so that it would not sneak up on me if it happened.

There is another kind of redundancy that is more complicated, but gives you control over stage timing if the artist goes long or short between songs, or repeats a verse, or keeps the patter going during the opening, etc. Check it out on MOTU's site. Look for Mike McKnight--Madonna's MIDI director. The key to his system is a live swapper that redirects time code and everything, if I remember right. Worth a read. The more you already know about it, the more you will get out of it.

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I just copied the show to the desktop from the firewire drive and ran it from there and oh boy, was it jerky! The first piece with the dancers intro has something like 40 tracks to begin with (then it drops to a manageablre under 20)- for a minute I thought it wasn't gooing to work, so I ran it from the fire wire drinve and to my dismay, same thing! (we just did a show 2 nights ago with no problems, well almost no problems if you don't count a bum firewire cable)
Rats, I had visions of a flop tonight!
then I plugged the ibook in the wall and all was fine... I guess the ibook can not handle all those tracks from battery power for it was fully charged when I started. Live and learn. I think my next project is going to be condensing down all those overture tracks so It doesn't max out on me... Mind you, the processor was only half way but it was spiking and dropping out all over the place with battery power-

On another note- thanks for the Mcknight tip, I'll look into it. I did read the article when it first came out, about the madonna tour, maybe its time to revisit it.
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apogee rosetta - Mach Five, Atmosphere, Stylus, Garritan, Soundtrack,
more soft synths...
check out my latest DP project at www.theorishasarecoming.com more on www.lordtiger.com
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DP and SoundTrackPro...Is Amazing ! It is very very good...
G4 1.4 Mhz/ 1.5 Gb RAM - iMac 2.1Gh 1.5 Gb RAM - 828 MKII - MTP/AV - DP3 - 2 (Two) SAMPLECELL Cards - MACKIE 32/8 Bus - JBL4333A - YAMAHA NS10M - YAMAHA ProR3 - DBX 160A - OTARI DAT - ADAT XT - VIRUS - TRINITY - Super JD 990 - MO'PHATT - POD Line 6 - BEHRINGER's DEQ2496 / MIC2200 - NEUMANN MIC's and more...
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Both applications-DP and Soundtrack Pro-work together great. :)
OS 10.14.6, iMac i7.3,5 with 32 GB Ram, 828x, Miditimepiece AV, DP 10.00 (ger.)
MachFive 3, MSi, Ethno 1, Omnisphere 2, Sampletank 4, Forest Kingdom II, Desert Winds, EWQLSO-Silver, Real Guitar 2, VLP120, PLP120, VCP120, Liquid Saxophones, Elastic, The Resource, Wave Arts PowerSuite 4+5 and Master Restoration, Kontaktplayer, Absynth 5, Ni Action Strings etc.
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