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Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:49 am
by FutureLegends
I think this is a good thing. Now MOTU can spend the time it did on making DP compatible with ProTools/DAE on developing new functions and squashing bugs instead!

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:40 pm
by martian
:D indeed a nice idea..

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:55 pm
by sdfalk
FWIW, I think DP gets bashed more than PT's does... and for NO apparent, or logically supported reasons.
Yeah..because you know..it is a contest. :lol:

Seriously though, I'm not one to be that concerned about how one company does
business..as long as their product works as advertised.
Digi started doing business, when computers were not nearly fast enough to keep
up with the needs of processing audio, plugins etc.
Purchasing a system with DSP engine was the only way to go.
Now with an 8core mac at your disposal it hardly seems necessary
(or AS necessary.)
Having said that, me and UAD cards are going to become friends soon.
In 2010 it hardly seem like reality to be tying software to hardware in such a
proprietary fashion, but it's their choice to make.
I've met a few people from Digi, and they seem like nice enough folk.
After a lengthy conversation, you get the impression their very sincere when they
suggest all their trying to do is build rock solid professional systems when
we discuss the HD platform.
To me, the main problem with that thinking is that (with enough diligence and care)
you can build an equally solid Native system with FAR superior converters
(apogee anyone?) for far less money.
You can also continually change and update/upgrade hardware when newer
products come out.
With Digi..you're stuck until they decide it's time to change.
If Digi was a company willing to do what was necessary to adapt to changing
times, then I might consider their products.
They don't appear to be...so I don't.

Motu on the other hand jams a cut rate version of DP (Audio Desk) into every
piece of hardware they ship and I have to ask myself..why.
In the increasingly Competitive marketplace full of Daw software, Motu
needs to stand out.
They certainly stand out to the end user (like you and me) but to someone
walking into a store weaned on Protools, Cubase, or Logic (as examples)
People need a compelling reason to buy it.
Bundle it with the hardware (or at the very least a lite version of DP..which
AudioDesk is not)
If they became a more transparent company (as in hey man..we just squashed some
bugs, here's what they are) that might prove helpful as well.
I'd like to see them do more then just meet the status quo, I'd like to see them
reach more users and sell more copies of DP.
DP is a wonderful, well thought out, (relatively) easy to use piece of software.
I love the Audio weirdness/music/sound design projects it helps me to realize.
I don't want them to become another StudioVision Pro...

(and I realize there hardware/plugin business might keep them a float)

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:19 am
by martian
i think the reason they got bashed in the pastwas there lack of transparency..

hopefully the eunuch-corn is growing some balls and letting us know what they changed..

I saw some evidence of that in 7.0 release - but that catch all phrase- and other changes..

but yes DP is a great piece of software now- it's got a few niggles- but I am earning my bread withit.. and am happy in my version of 6 -

it's not broke enough for me to want to fix it...

and thats a great point about the apogee convertors..

hopefully this is the native decade!

( i was stunned to get 100 channel project playing back on my macbook pro! dp 7.02 ) :D

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:32 pm
by tripit@earthlink.net
Eh..all you nay sayers, spreaders of doom. MOTU hasn't given up. DP7.1 DOES supports 8.0.3 even if Digi says it won't.

And I've just installed both and it's the best DP/DAE combo to date.
The sync issues with VI are fixed. VE PRO, stylus etc all now sync perfectly. That was the last major issue I had with the DP/DAE combo.

Turns out, and this according to the DP installer notes, you have to have 8.0.3 installed first before you install DP, or you have reinstall DP in order for DAE to function properly.

I'm dancing around the studio shaking my butt at all of you. :P

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 4:23 am
by AleCerto
Ciao tripit,

I'm very glad to read that, thank you!!

I have just downloaded both PT8.0.3 and DP7.1 and I'm going to update my DP/DAE combo.

I hope I'll be able to join you in the dance and shaking my butt, too. :P

Re: Digi ends support DP in DAE mode

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:24 am
by n2mpujack
Now if someone with Snow Leopard could give this a try that'd be great!