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Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:50 am
by BERLY
Hi M5 users,

I can't believe I'm the only one on earth having this defect on 2 samples !
I've found it could be a very short overdrive on the sample ???
You can see the sample of the B2 on a JPG at the following link, and a very short mp3 :

http://www.studio-slc.com/transfert/Mac ... nd_bug.zip


I've already reinstaled the piano from the DVD. No change.
Same problem, of course, in StandAlone mode.

How can I fix it ?
I'm not very gifted in the use of sophisticated samplers as M5 II.
Sometimes things are becoming complicated in a foreign language. M5 doesn't exists in french :-(

It seems that this type of sample can not be edited...!? Because it comes with M5???
Otherwise it would be easy to edit it in dp.

Thanks
Best regards
Christophe
http://www.studio-slc.com

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:41 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
BERLY wrote:Hi M5 users,

I can't believe I'm the only one on earth having this defect on 2 samples !
I went to verify the sample for you and opened M5. As soon as I played the note on my copy, I heard the crackle as well. So you're not alone. It shouldn't be there. Frankly, it is not a problem for me. I have several great pianos I use (Kurzweil PC2x mostly for electronic; Yamaha G5 for actual recordings.) I'd probably never use the German grand in M5, but just so you know, it IS in my copy as well.

Great sleuthing in finding the cause, BTW.

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:17 am
by BERLY
Thank you very much !

Now I'm sure that the problem dooesn't come from my M5 DVD.

Unfortunately, it's the best piano I have. If I cannot repair it myself, I'll must buy something else urgently.
I must finish a mix album with 2 songs with that piano.
Maybe I'd never buy M5 II if I had known that I could't use the piano.

Best regards

Christophe

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:27 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
It's not possible to edit the piano? Maybe change the range of a surrounding note and delete that sample?

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:32 pm
by BERLY
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:It's not possible to edit the piano? Maybe change the range of a surrounding note and delete that sample?
I've deleted the overdrived B2 sample and change the left boundarie of the C3 sample to cover the B2.

It seemed to work. So I chose SAVE in the preset menu. I seemed to save. Until the time I had to reload this Preset, M5 considered that it was corrupt. Impossible to reload the piano preset.

I tried to do the same thing to the German Soft Piano, wich had the same problem. And I got the same impossibility to reload this piano too.

So, in summury, it's prohibits to "save a copy as" and it's impossible to edit the preset and save it.

I also tried to only change the level of a saple of German Piano, wich was unbelievably loud compared to the others. MachFive quits !

Thanks MOTU ! ! ! !

I'm forced to buy a new piano and to explain my client that his album will not be finished next week because of two little samples.

Best regards
Christophe

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:43 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
That really sucks! But there may be other workarounds for now. You shouldn't have to do this, but it might save you some $$$.

In the sections that have that note (if this is feasible, of course) move them to another track - deleting from the original. Transpose the new track down a full step, add a PITCH BEND up to get to pitch on the entire track. M5 will be forced to play the sample below with a pitch bend and avoid the bad sample.

Even easier. I think you can still double click on the errant pitch in the left side "keyboard" of the editing window and select all notes at that pitch. Cut and paste them to a new track and dot eh pitch bend trick above. You should be fine as long as you make sure your dynamics and pedals are all matching the original track.

Wasn't the deranged computer in the old Star Trek TV series called M5?! :shock:

Fascinating!

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Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:57 pm
by BERLY
Great ideas !
I'll try that tomorrow. indeed, it should work.
Thank you very much !
Christophe

Re: A note cracking with German Grand Piano ?

Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:12 pm
by MIDI Life Crisis
BERLY wrote:Great ideas !
I'll try that tomorrow. indeed, it should work.
Thank you very much !
Christophe
:) That's why my company os so named... :)