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Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:53 am
by iPerformer
Thanks James!!
Just Got it!!!

Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:13 pm
by Timeline
My position on the GUI personal modifications is three fold.
First off MOTU offers the software on MAC only and as a part of MAC it is agreed and confirmed that you are able to read and modify controls and facia files without de assembly or any unusual or extraordinary efforts or additional software within the machine. Second, we assume you are not selling these modifications to anyone or making any money whatsoever as a result of your efforts. Third, you have paid for the software and all it's updates.
Given these three very important items are true, I don't think there is a chance in Hatties that MOTU would or could have a case for injunctive relief or any injury to the company at all? In fact, I believe you could make a good case for just the opposite as a promotable flexibility within the software itself and promotion of same.
My conclusion is; it's not an issue. Would users be looking to make these changes if they were happy with the GUI design? I doubt it. It would be important to state that any modification of their logo namesake could indeed be another issue so stay away from that.
Additionally there is precedent already in place in the industry by other companies that actually support customized GUI user modifications: RME for instance.
My .02
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:25 am
by amplidood
Where in the world is Hatties??!?!!

Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:54 am
by James Steele
Timeline wrote:Given these three very important items are true, I don't think there is a chance in Hatties that MOTU would or could have a case for injunctive relief or any injury to the company at all?
That doesn't matter at all to me this case. It's not about "legalities" or whether or not MOTU could prevail or not. If MOTU felt that they didn't want the board being used to distribute user-modified XML files substantially altering the "look and feel" of their software, I would happily honor their wishes.
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:02 am
by Timeline
James Steele wrote:Timeline wrote:Given these three very important items are true, I don't think there is a chance in Hatties that MOTU would or could have a case for injunctive relief or any injury to the company at all?
That doesn't matter at all to me this case. It's not about "legalities" or whether or not MOTU could prevail or not. If MOTU felt that they didn't want the board being used to distribute user-modified XML files substantially altering the "look and feel" of their software, I would happily honor their wishes.
Well of course
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:37 am
by bOing
I can see a 6.5 release that has 5 color options - and three button styles. You want to talk about happy campers. And to top it off, tweakability within those color schemes.
As long as the house is standing, who cares what color it is? [as long as it's not "Nuclear White Supreme!"]
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:20 pm
by Timeline
For me, the echo knobs and the fader level nomenclature is so small my glasses prescription now needs renewing. That's another 400 bucks for an appointment and new glasses. That's why I care....
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:23 pm
by martian
James Steele wrote:Timeline wrote:Given these three very important items are true, I don't think there is a chance in Hatties that MOTU would or could have a case for injunctive relief or any injury to the company at all?
That doesn't matter at all to me this case. It's not about "legalities" or whether or not MOTU could prevail or not. If MOTU felt that they didn't want the board being used to distribute user-modified XML files substantially altering the "look and feel" of their software, I would happily honor their wishes.
where's the rocker in you? fight for your right dude! We should be allowed to tweak this on our own computer in our own home...
modding is cool - modding means love.... motu love...
mo - tuna - nation - FISHY!!!!
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:57 pm
by RCory
Timeline wrote:
First off MOTU offers the software on MAC only and as a part of MAC it is agreed and confirmed that you are able to read and modify controls and facia files
Surely you mean "Mac" and not "MAC" - which is something else entirely...
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:04 pm
by Timeline
I'm not speaking for James but I think his response was correct. If MOTU advises that they do not want the activity I would do the same to maintain his relationship with them. He's not saying you can't do what you want off the site I don't think, I don't think. My opinion was not for the site but for the individual users out there anyway. I would never openly pass files to anyone on this site. Key word openly or publically.
I agree it's a good thing to learn about and be able to work with and in the end try and produce a look that is pleasing to you psychologically. I like colors myself. Anyone have a top shot of a cool slider knob? hehe
Yes Macintosh
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:12 pm
by RCory
Sorry, I was being a pompous and ill-hearted...
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:20 pm
by James Steele
martian wrote:where's the rocker in you? fight for your right dude! We should be allowed to tweak this on our own computer in our own home...
Puhleeease! It's not my fight.
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:22 pm
by James Steele
Timeline wrote:I'm not speaking for James but I think his response was correct. If MOTU advises that they do not want the activity I would do the same to maintain his relationship with them. He's not saying you can't do what you want off the site I don't think
That's exactly what I'm saying. In the long view there would really be nothing to be gained for this board to be looking to step on MOTU's toes in this hypothetical situation. I haven't even had time to ask them what their position is yet. I won't till tomorrow perhaps.
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:46 am
by martian
sorry dude!
just think it's a bit sensitive really -
I mean - the law is an ASS sometimes... but no one would ever accuse you of being a pirate etc...
your positions are well known....
MOTU don't say much - maybe wait until they do?
maybe the guy can link to an off site - but showing pictures of something he did here in DP is just part of a conversation - that's what forums are for eh?
you are proliferating illegal •••• - you jsut talking about a frankly minor and technical breach (perhaps?) of EULA
might be your forum - but it's nowt without the people, eh?
smells fishy dude....
Re: New DP6 GUI...
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:36 am
by Babz
I'm just starting this thread from the beginning today...
Was there supposed to be graphics with the initial post?
I'm not seeing any.
Babz