Stillwell plugins? aka Schwa plugs

[James Steele]

Just a heads-up - the new Stillwell compressor Rocket is a-ma-zing. Do try it, the demo version is fully functional. And the price is very competitive.

http://www.stillwellaudio.com

Definitely going to try this out. For $49 seems like a hell of a bargain if it works as advertised!

[James Steele]

Just a heads-up - the new Stillwell compressor Rocket is a-ma-zing. Do try it, the demo version is fully functional. And the price is very competitive.

http://www.stillwellaudio.com

Well... not so good. Maybe this is more of the DP6 + PPC + Leopard issue, but I got this error message soon as I instantiated the Rocket compressor:



The plug subsequently loaded but did nothing. The only thing it did do was block control of DP's transport from the keyboard when it was the frontmost window. I will write Stillwell and MOTU about this.

[Kubi]

The first Rocket build didn't work in DP5, Scott has since fixed that, but I seem to remember there were still problems in DP6. I'm sure Scott's working on DP6 compatibility as well, but he's one lone developer with a PC and a Mac.... You may want to ping him on his forum, I'm sure he'd love to get reports. He's VERY prompt with replies and the like.

[James Steele]

The first Rocket build didn't work in DP5, Scott has since fixed that, but I seem to remember there were still problems in DP6. I'm sure Scott's working on DP6 compatibility as well, but he's one lone developer with a PC and a Mac.... You may want to ping him on his forum, I'm sure he'd love to get reports. He's VERY prompt with replies and the like.

Yeah... I noticed the lack of a support email on his site, so I just finished registering for his forum to let him know about this issue.

[sstillwell]

I'm on it, ladies and gents...I'm gonna have to order a DP6 upgrade to be able to test, but that's cool...I wanted it anyway. Those with DP5 need have no fear...it should work just fine. I test with DP 5.13 at the moment.

I'm sure you guys are aware of this, but DP is WAY more strict about validating AU plugins than the actual Apple test suite (auval / AULab). We've got it working in pretty much all hosts at this point EXCEPT DP6. auval gives them all a clean bill of health, but as noted that doesn't mean much.

Scott

[Kubi]

Talk about prompt... Thanks for chiming in, Scott! And yes, I can attest that Rocket and all the other plugs work great in DP5.

BTW, I just got Schwa Oligarc, which among other things finally supplies a chorus plug-in that sounds good... (though Vapor is beautiful, too, but very different...)

[sstillwell]

DP6 upgrade ordered...I'll get this sorted as soon as I can.

Scott

[James Steele]

I'm on it, ladies and gents...I'm gonna have to order a DP6 upgrade to be able to test, but that's cool...I wanted it anyway. Those with DP5 need have no fear...it should work just fine. I test with DP 5.13 at the moment.

Thanks Scott... I saw your later post. I appreciate that you're so on top of this!

I'm sure you guys are aware of this, but DP is WAY more strict about validating AU plugins than the actual Apple test suite (auval / AULab). We've got it working in pretty much all hosts at this point EXCEPT DP6. auval gives them all a clean bill of health, but as noted that doesn't mean much.

FYI, Rocket passed DP 6.01's inspection no problem. It was only when I tried to instantiate it that I got an error and discovered it was in effect "turned off."

Also, I don't know if it's related, but you might want to look into why Rocket is preventing transport control from the Mac keyboard from working when the plug-in window is active. I can't even stop or start DP with the spacebar when its the "focused" window. Thanks for looking into this!

[David Polich]

Whoever is designing the GUI's for these is uber-talented. The Rocket's GUI is s-w-e-e-t.

I'm downloading the evaluation demo right now...

[steff3]

Digital Performer is one of our primary test platforms for the Mac...I own DP 5.13 and both G4 and Intel Macs (no G5s, though, which shouldn't be an issue).

We released both AU and VST formats, but not MAS so far.

Regards,

Scott Stillwell
Stillwell Audio.

Hello,

good to hear. So, maybe you could have a look at the side-chain implementation on some of your plugs - in DP6 I need to assign a 'dummy' input to the side-chain input or the plugin will not work. This seems to be the case with quite some devs coming over from VST/PC.
I mean, it is not a big hassle, but it is more DP/Mac-like if I place a plugin in an insert and if I do not want to have side-chain facility it just works without having to consider the side-chain input.

Personally I think you plugins (stillwell and schwa) are quite interesting.

Oh, and the last time I tried verbiage cuts the tail in DP - also a phenomenon often encounter from devs coming ....

Good to have you here anyways ....

best

[sstillwell]

Digital Performer is one of our primary test platforms for the Mac...I own DP 5.13 and both G4 and Intel Macs (no G5s, though, which shouldn't be an issue).

We released both AU and VST formats, but not MAS so far.

Regards,

Scott Stillwell
Stillwell Audio.

Hello,

good to hear. So, maybe you could have a look at the side-chain implementation on some of your plugs - in DP6 I need to assign a 'dummy' input to the side-chain input or the plugin will not work. This seems to be the case with quite some devs coming over from VST/PC.
I mean, it is not a big hassle, but it is more DP/Mac-like if I place a plugin in an insert and if I do not want to have side-chain facility it just works without having to consider the side-chain input.

Personally I think you plugins (stillwell and schwa) are quite interesting.

Oh, and the last time I tried verbiage cuts the tail in DP - also a phenomenon often encounter from devs coming ....

Good to have you here anyways ....

best

Wait wait wait...it WORKS in DP6 if you do that? James, you around? Have you tried that? If that is indeed the problem, it tells me what to do to (probably) fix it....

Scott

[James Steele]

I won't be able to check for a couple of days. I get the MAS error though when trying to instantate the plug. Don't know if I could then give it a sidechain source and it would come back or not. Like I said, I won't be able to check it for a while.

FYI, my issues might be related to some weirdness with the combo of DP6 on PPC machines running Leopard also.

[steff3]

'Wait wait wait...it WORKS in DP6 if you do that? James, you around? Have you tried that? If that is indeed the problem, it tells me what to do to (probably) fix it....'

(I am not James, but ...) Well, yes, kind of ...

I do not get a plugin error thou ..... (But DP6 on G5 and Leopard is something special anyways as it seems ....)

Indeed this works for some plugins with side-chain inputs (Voxengo Crunchessor, Verbiage, Major Tom, Rocket, ....)

Just for the statistics - I am on G5, 10.4.10/11. DP6.01

hope that helps

best

[ECmaj7]

Just finished messing around with the Vibe EQ, 1973 EQ, Rocket and MajorTom..
I have to say at this point I am very impressed!
They compare well against any plugin I have including the Liquid Mix.
I have to use them a little more to be sure if I am not imagining this. (gui is great, placebo effect possible)
It's too good to be true for the price, no?

Emilio

[Kubi]

Hey Scott, just thought I'd clarify some of the comments here, since I'm not sure you've followed the entire "DP6 plug-in" discussion on this board:

After folks compared a bunch of experiences here in the forum, it seems that DP6 on a PPC in Leopard is a combo that breaks a number of plug-ins, i.e. Native Instruments. So for the affected plug-ins (though by no means all!) this means that while they work in DP6 if on either a) Intel and Leo, or b) PPC and Tiger, the affected plugs do NOT work if on c) PPC and Leo. Again, this applies only to a handful of plug-ins, i.e. NI. And none of this applies to DP5, but as we all know, the AU implementation has been changed substantially in DP6.