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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:14 pm
by sdfalk
Any info on quickscribe?
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Richard Einhorn
wouldn't mind hearing something about that myself
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:53 pm
by Rick Averill
A lot of this stuff I think I can live without.
I guess the one selling point for me is: Have they fixed the VI volume bursts? I guess only time, and the experience of others who upgrade, will tell.
Another question that may have to wait to be answered: Will existing versions of various VI's and sample engines be compatible, or will there be a lot of other upgrading that has to take place?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:24 pm
by Shooshie
richardein wrote:Any info on quickscribe?
Haven't heard a thing about Quickscribe since the whole NAMM DP demo exploded upon us. I wouldn't get my hopes up. I get the feeling that for now, anyway, MOTU has written off Quickscribe as a legacy they'd like to be done with. On the other hand, the fact that they have not updated Mosaic makes me wonder if a full-fledged version of Quickscribe is coming some day.
Oh... right... I said don't get my hopes up, didn't I?

Time for me to order Sibelius.
Rick Averill wrote:I guess the one selling point for me is: Have they fixed the VI volume bursts?
I have this fear that they will only be worse than before, since they are apparently an artifact resulting from pre-rendering tracks. Now that DP will be pre-rendering VI's as well as plugins, will there be more dropouts and bursts? Or, maybe they became so problematic that MOTU decided to fix it. Nobody noticed it happening during Magic Dave's demo, so maybe it's really fixed!
Shooshie
huh
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:36 pm
by willheim
well, motu usually quietly fixes things they don't want to talk about. for me the real issues are being efficient, cpu spikes, accuracy, stability and
responsiveness.
the pre render thing worries the hell out of me. i like to work fast, and when
i fly to many commands ahead dp always gets confused and crashes.
64 bit? 8 core efficient?
address more memory? (I know it is the OS limitation) ((so yee gads work around it))
better iac, more stability?
huh.
well, i will buy it and use it.
i always do always have.
3.0 ghz 8 core mac pro, 16 gigs ram, blablabla. dp 5.11 os 4.12. 2408's (3), mtp av's (3) ivory, altiverb, AKG C12, UA La 2, 610, 30" cinema, 24" cinema, antelope valley clock, apogee ad 16x, tired of my krk v8's but i am used to them, tired of my soundcraft ghost board but i can't afford the new neve and don't want to go to a summing mixer because i use alot of bussing and eq when i work, brent avril 1064's (2), stereo UA 1176, pendulum audio 6386, 8 pentium IV's running ewso, virus, nord, roland, 2.5 ghz dual g5 with 8 gigs running plugins through plogue host,
huh. dp 6.
huh.
huh.
funny i have mosaic, and the sound editor thing, and the thing before mosaic - don't even know where they are. quickscribe is a pain but it works. i end up getting it to look right and then printing the junk out and finishing it by hand
all the orchestrastors i work with use finale or sibelius alongside dp.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:08 pm
by dweiss
The realtime VI bounce and direct burn features sound great.
I do wonder if DP6 will run on a G5 though.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:12 pm
by James Steele
dweiss wrote:I do wonder if DP6 will run on a G5 though.
I don't see why it wouldn't. Do you mean "run well" on a G5? Given the new feature set it doesn't seem like it would be much more taxing to run DP 6 than DP 5.13.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:17 pm
by dweiss
Running well would be a concern of course, but I was wondering if this would be the start of Intel only programming.
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:55 pm
by grimepoch
I doubt it. I think you will see G5 for quite awhile for DP.
Re: Some "official" DP6 info.....
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:35 am
by RCory
Frodo wrote:
third-party AU virtual instrument plug-ins are now 100% sample accurate...
Confused: *now* 100% sample accurate in DP6 as opposed to *what* in DP5?
99.99993%
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:48 am
by rikp
grimepoch wrote:I doubt it. I think you will see G5 for quite awhile for DP.
I hope so! I use Trilogy and Atmosphere quite a bit and Spectrasonics has been silent on getting those plugs up to speed on Intel Macs. Omnisphere will replace Atmosphere but no word yet on Trilogy.
There are a lot of folks complaining about the wrapper fix that Spectrasonics came up with. Don't even want to go there>>>>>>
They will have to pry my Mac Quad PPC G5 out of my dying hands!
Peace
rikp
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:51 pm
by spirit
"My only real issue with the DP UI is that everything is so dang small. I get the vertical zoom update for tracks, however is there anything that will allow everything to get bigger both vertically and horizontally?"
Maybe changing display resolution in system preferences? (Would make everything bigger if you change to a lower resolution- mixer window, markers window- maybe some you don't really want larger, but it might be overall preferable if you display will give adequate performance at a different resolution- a bit of trial and error might be required).
Is quickscribe broken in DP5? it's OK in 4.6. (maybe it's becoming a wise course to keep old versions and backsave for certain functions?).
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:47 pm
by dpdan
Another "UP" date and still no rolling MIDI edit.
It appears as though MOTU is starting to care less about MIDI
and addressing only audio issues for cutting and pasting rap loops.
Finally, markers can be recognized at CD track ID numbers.
I spoke to them about that idea at the 2005 AES show.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:40 pm
by blue
dpdan wrote:It appears as though MOTU is starting to care less about MIDI and addressing only audio issues for cutting and pasting rap loops.

???
I agree, MIDI needs to be enhanced, but what have they done to audio to make it more, um, rap friendly?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:53 pm
by dpdan
That was my way of venting towards MOTU. I still love DP.
I didn't say that DP's audio features are more user friendly for making rap.
Features like beat detection and all of it's associated features appear to be more of a priority than some of the very useful things we have discussed here over two years ago.
I understand why MOTU is aiming their software more heavily towards creating "music" with loops than with MIDI, because that is where the money is at the moment. MOTU feels the need to "keep up" with other vendors and their included bubble gum sounds.
A program that used to be the king of MIDI sequencing, even today is missing features that are very much needed in the MIDI department.
MOTU has still disregarded the requests made by many of us users.
That's why I was posting my opinion right or wrong.
Dan
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:55 pm
by mhschmieder
I'm confused -- is there some concern that Quickscribe is being dropped from the program altogether, or just that there appears to be no development of additional features for the notation engine?