DP Question (kind of urgent)
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- auptown
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Frodo:
Here's a long shot, but an easy one to try.
What about loading only half your ram? Try it with 4G instead of 8G. When I scanned that apple thread, all the folks reporting the giant memory number (which to my thinking is a form of a binary -1) had 8G or more ram.
My fingers are crossed for you!
Here's a long shot, but an easy one to try.
What about loading only half your ram? Try it with 4G instead of 8G. When I scanned that apple thread, all the folks reporting the giant memory number (which to my thinking is a form of a binary -1) had 8G or more ram.
My fingers are crossed for you!
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- MIDI Life Crisis
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Re: DP Question (kind of urgent)
--- Number of Threads = 21
--- Real Memory = 305.21 MB
--- Virtual Memory = 902.77 MB
Also:
% CPU (stopped) 36.50; (Playing) 72.00
Process = 495
# ports = 1,913
Shared = 184.15 MB
Private = 235.55 MB
CPU Time = 37.70
Messages sent = 93,769
Messages Received = 52,350
Have no idea what most of that stuff means, BTW.
--- Real Memory = 305.21 MB
--- Virtual Memory = 902.77 MB
Also:
% CPU (stopped) 36.50; (Playing) 72.00
Process = 495
# ports = 1,913
Shared = 184.15 MB
Private = 235.55 MB
CPU Time = 37.70
Messages sent = 93,769
Messages Received = 52,350
Have no idea what most of that stuff means, BTW.
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Oh no! What if the solution to Frodo's problem is LESS RAM! That would just be wrong. So wrong!auptown wrote:Frodo:
Here's a long shot, but an easy one to try.
What about loading only half your ram? Try it with 4G instead of 8G. When I scanned that apple thread, all the folks reporting the giant memory number (which to my thinking is a form of a binary -1) had 8G or more ram.
My fingers are crossed for you!
Phil
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With exactly the same numbers: 16,777,216chucks wrote:You're not alone.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... ID=5195401
http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/thread/99945
Which happens to be 256 x 256 x 256
I am so far from a computer programmer it's not funny, but my little mind would say that there is a corrupted chip or software instruction in the OS that likes to multiply RAM instead of adding it. As a result, I would imagine that RAM addresses are also screwed up, resulting in spinning color wheels and crashes.
The Apple Discussions thread is not encouraging. Motherboard replaced, hardware and RAM tested, etc. to no avail. It might be one of those hard to track down OS bugs (not unlike the MIDI volume bug in DP) that the programmers just cannot figure out. But that doesn't help Frodo.
Sucks!
This was also covered in the Apple thread. Didn't work there.Phil O wrote:Oh no! What if the solution to Frodo's problem is LESS RAM! That would just be wrong. So wrong!auptown wrote:Frodo:
Here's a long shot, but an easy one to try.
What about loading only half your ram? Try it with 4G instead of 8G. When I scanned that apple thread, all the folks reporting the giant memory number (which to my thinking is a form of a binary -1) had 8G or more ram.
My fingers are crossed for you!
Phil
I'm curious, however. I don't see that anyone with this problem reinstalled the OS. Have you?
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- monkey man
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Good call, Andy.auptown wrote:Frodo:
Here's a long shot, but an easy one to try.
What about loading only half your ram? Try it with 4G instead of 8G. When I scanned that apple thread, all the folks reporting the giant memory number (which to my thinking is a form of a binary -1) had 8G or more ram.
My fingers are crossed for you!
Wouldn't it be a hoot if RAMbro's problem was that he had too much, when adding RAM was almost a standard prescription of his?
Fingers crossed here too.
LOL! Brilliant, Tim!Tim wrote:I believe that was Freudo's problem.blue wrote: I think something's up with your motherboard or something.
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- Timeline
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threads 192
VM 10.71 GB
800mb
Session with many VI's
and it works fine...
VM 10.71 GB
800mb
Session with many VI's
and it works fine...
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- monkey man
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A hippo died a few weeks ago at Sydney's Toronga Zoo from too much tera bytin'.Timeline wrote:Sorry frodo.. on the upside it's good to know Apple is able to read tera bytes.blue wrote:Wow, Frodo. I know you've always been a proponent of RAM, but 16,777,216 TB?
I agree with James. I think something's up with your motherboard or something.
The post-mortem revealed 15 pounds of sand in its gut.

True story.
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- monkey man
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Naa... we've all eaten our fair share of dirt around here, Gary.
That's one of the things that make us so earthy and approachable.
That's one of the things that make us so earthy and approachable.

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- James Steele
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Apple: "Umm sorry to hear that, but would you like to buy an iPhone?"Phil O wrote:Something's rotten in Denmark. Or Cupertino.
I really hope Apple doesn't take their corporate eye off of their (original) core business. You know... computers! That word they dropped from their name.

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- Timeline
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I wouldn't mind a 33% discount on an 8 core..James Steele wrote:Apple: "Umm sorry to hear that, but would you like to buy an iPhone?"Phil O wrote:Something's rotten in Denmark. Or Cupertino.
I really hope Apple doesn't take their corporate eye off of their (original) core business. You know... computers! That word they dropped from their name.

- buzzsmith
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Because of my (now solved) dilemma I was in an Apple Store yesterday and noticed something wierd that I couldn't quite put my finger on immediately...driving home it dawned on me that most of the displayed merchandise was not computers...maybe 25% of floor space, the rest iPods and iPhones and of course the service desks.James Steele wrote: I really hope Apple doesn't take their corporate eye off of their (original) core business. You know... computers! That word they dropped from their name.
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