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Re: SOS introduces Plugsound Pro: The Missing Instrument

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:00 pm
by billf
monkey man wrote:Curious, 'Cornies: What purpose do those "Borg" pipes and hoses serve in Machy's main window?
I've always noticed them in review pics and the like...
Are they hype, signal-flow clues, or reminders that the programmers are all Trekkies? :?
Monkey,

The borg pipes serve a purpose. They light up when you load new presets and samples and so forth. It's actually nice cool feature.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:30 am
by monkey man
Wow, Billy.

Good ol' MOTU, that's in keeping with what one should expect from them.
I'm quite relieved to learn it wasn't just hype.
Excellent. MOTU forges on in MOTU-mode. Yay!

I still reckon they're Trekkies.

Thanks, Billy.
Nicky

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:00 pm
by chrispick
monkey man wrote:I still reckon they're Trekkies.
Yep.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:01 am
by Sarcazm
Can someone who has both PSP and M5 let me know if the load times are similar.

I've had to jack in M5, except for small stuff, as I can't be bothered to wait 10 minutes for a project to load in Live. which has just one instance of M5 and three slots used, especially as I'm on a laptop with limited battery time.

If PSP has faster loading times, then I may well get that.

Note, I'm on a PC platform, 2gig Centrino, and M5 is the only sampler with this issue (as a comparison, I can load a Live project with Reason rewired, containing several NNTX samplers in under a minute!).

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:11 pm
by wvandyck
With 9 slots filled with mid to full size files, it takes an M5 song 38-40 seconds to fully load. The same song, with PSP and similar file sizes takes 13 seconds.

To open the instrument by double-clicking on its name in the insert, it takes M5 3 seconds to open, and PSP 4-5.

M5 seems to be more cpu hungry than PSP. PSP is an awesome playback plug-in. M5 has many other desireable advantages.

Having both is 8)

Can you remap X-treme FX samples in PS Pro?

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:09 pm
by gabriels
I recently bought X-treme FX and love the sounds but want to be able to map a different sample to each key (over the full 10 octaves) and save that keymap....and create several such keymaps....probably some multi-sampled and some not. Then I'd like to be able to call up these key mappings with MIDI program changes. Is that possible in PS Pro? If not, I understand M5 v2 will do it, but I don't like the look of all those posts lamenting the lack of progress in releasing it.
Gabriel

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:04 am
by monkey man
flashgerkin wrote:M5 seems to be more cpu hungry than PSP. PSP is an awesome playback plug-in. M5 has many other desireable advantages.
Remember, DP's become way more efficient since MachV 1.2.3 was released.
I'd expect a similar improvement with Machy II. :D

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:24 am
by MIDI Life Crisis
alexff wrote:Just a quick wander off topic...

Chrispick,flashgerkin etc..

Have you had the 'missing samples' bug with the PSP? It affects a few of the urban drum kit patches - when loading the program, the plugin reports missing samples.

A couple of people on another forum have posted this issue too, but I'm guessing you guys would have a similar setup to mine...?
Me too, but as with Chris, I didn't really need the sample in question. It was Chris who turned me on to PSP and their FX card. Made my last project fly by (which was good since I had about an hour to write a score for an 18 minute movie.) Nothing like a prepared director...

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:17 am
by monkey man
MIDI Life Crisis wrote:... Made my last project fly by (which was good since I had about an hour to write a score for an 18 minute movie.) Nothing like a prepared director...
Whether it's tight deadlines or panty-lines, MLC's our go-to guy. :lol:

Way to go, Magilla. :wink:

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:08 am
by Sarcazm
flashgerkin wrote:With 9 slots filled with mid to full size files, it takes an M5 song 38-40 seconds to fully load. The same song, with PSP and similar file sizes takes 13 seconds.

To open the instrument by double-clicking on its name in the insert, it takes M5 3 seconds to open, and PSP 4-5.

M5 seems to be more cpu hungry than PSP. PSP is an awesome playback plug-in. M5 has many other desireable advantages.

Having both is 8)
Sorry, I missed this reply.

Are you on Wintel or Mac, cause your load times are considerably faster than mine! Perhaps it's a Live problem (there are a few bugs with M5 and Live, like Freeze, which Ableton aren't interested in, as, I assume, they consider M5 too small to even bother getting :cry: ) . I'll try and test it on my old Sonar 3 to see if there's an improvement. BTW, that 10 minute load time is no exaggeration.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:42 am
by wvandyck
alexff wrote:Just a quick wander off topic...

Chrispick,flashgerkin etc..

Have you had the 'missing samples' bug with the PSP? It affects a few of the urban drum kit patches - when loading the program, the plugin reports missing samples.

A couple of people on another forum have posted this issue too, but I'm guessing you guys would have a similar setup to mine...?
I finally have a chance to respond to this. When "auditioning" the sounds, I did come across a few that would not "play" when triggered by my MIDI guitar. So then I just used the onscreen keyboard to quickly play in different ranges in case the preset had a defined key range or whatever.

But like MIDI Life Crisis mentions later on, there are so many samples and variations of very similar samples that I don't think I'm missing anything.

When time allows, I may post the missing notes. I'll be a dunce and say that I'm guesssing we all have the same missing notes.

On a side note, and with regard for the... vast, immense, large, big, great, massive, colossal, prodigious, gigantic, gargantuan, mammoth, monumental; giant, towering, elephantine, mountainous, monstrous, titanic; epic, Herculean, Brobdingnagian; informal jumbo, mega, monster, king-size(d), economy-size(d), oversized, super-size(d), whopping, humongous, honking, hulking, astronomical, cosmic, ginormous... nature of the delayed release of v2 :lol: , I just gotta say that I'm crazy about M5. I'm a casual user, but evertime I roll up my sleeves to use it, I walk away very pleased.

Again, M5 and PSP is an awesome core music production system.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:50 am
by wvandyck
Sarcazm wrote:Sorry, I missed this reply.

Are you on Wintel or Mac, cause your load times are considerably faster than mine! Perhaps it's a Live problem (there are a few bugs with M5 and Live, like Freeze, which Ableton aren't interested in, as, I assume, they consider M5 too small to even bother getting :cry: ) . I'll try and test it on my old Sonar 3 to see if there's an improvement. BTW, that 10 minute load time is no exaggeration.
Who has time to keep up???

I'm using a May 2001 Apple 533 MHz dual processor G4 with a GigaDesign cpu upgrade.

I'm so accustomeed to freezing tracks as a project progresses, that I can only dream of being able to run several instances of several different VI's simultaneously. But in time... :D

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:40 am
by monkey man
flashgerkin wrote:... I just gotta say that I'm crazy about M5. I'm a casual user, but evertime I roll up my sleeves to use it, I walk away very pleased.
Yay! This is the kinda thing I like to hear, Flash. :D

I sure hope I've saved up enough to be able to afford Machy II when she hits the streets. :?

Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:00 am
by wvandyck
monkey man wrote: Yay! This is the kinda thing I like to hear, Flash. :D

I sure hope I've saved up enough to be able to afford Machy II when she hits the streets. :?
I'm sure that power users have different expectations for v2. In my case, v1.23 works like a champ. The real issue is "feeding it" more samples and libraries. I'm in the process of "sampling" hardware that I've had for years. The DP/M5 combo works nicely. Logic users however, can sip cool drinks in the shade while AutoSampler pretty much manages the whole record/slice&dice process.

I've looked at other software samplers out there, but came to the realization that I have what I need, and know how to use it. I'm at a life stage where the brain wants to run efficiently with what it knows versus being bogged down with new learing of new platforms.
"Is that the gentle roasting of Guinea Pigs I smell? Braised rodent nuts, perhaps? Smouldering Guinea brains?
I had a good laugh with that .

The above could be the opening statement for an "Upgraders Anonomous" brochure.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 4:49 am
by monkey man
flashgerkin wrote:Logic users however, can sip cool drinks in the shade while AutoSampler pretty much manages the whole record/slice&dice process.
I'll bet Machy II will give us this feature. Maybe. I hope.
flashgerkin wrote:I've looked at other software samplers out there, but came to the realization that I have what I need, and know how to use it. I'm at a life stage where the brain wants to run efficiently with what it knows versus being bogged down with new learing of new platforms.
I've got the troubleshootin' blues, and the incompatibility jitters.
Oh, and my brain is jaded, and my eyes glazed-over.
I think I can relate, Flash.
The Spiffy Pickled One wrote:
The apester wrote:"Is that the gentle roasting of Guinea Pigs I smell? Braised rodent nuts, perhaps? Smouldering Guinea brains?
I had a good laugh with that .
The above could be the opening statement for an "Upgraders Anonomous" brochure.
Ha! Good call, Flash. :lol: