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In addition to all the good points already made...
If my memory serves me correctly the 421 has a high pass filter ring at the base near the XLR connection. The "S" setting I believe is full roll-off so you may want to set it to the "M" position.
yeah, i checked that too make sure it was set on M. the 421 actually sounded pretty good. i'll most likely just use that track, but when i noticed the rode mic was "filtery" sounding i thought i'd question it here.
good point though. i've never tried to change that on the 421. when would one want to move the dial towards the "S"?
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Kind Of Loud wrote:Yeah, some good info given here.....
Also.....Remember, you can also re-amp. There are several good products available to do this..
That way, you can just record, and get the performamce down, and then reamp later to get the the sound/tone you're hearing.
yeah. i'd like to try reamping at some point. do you really need to buy a Radial reamp di? couldn't i just take one of the outs on my 2408 into an amp? or does that lack something?
Well....
Your 2408 will be sending a +4 signal. whick is not what your amp is looking for..This is where you need a reamp device...Once I tried switching my 2408 over to -10 unbalanced, and ran that signal straight into the amp, without a reamp device...The results were not very good, so I just leave the 2408 at +4, and run into a Reamp box..
Kind Of Loud wrote:Yeah, some good info given here.....
Also.....Remember, you can also re-amp. There are several good products available to do this..
That way, you can just record, and get the performamce down, and then reamp later to get the the sound/tone you're hearing.
yeah. i'd like to try reamping at some point. do you really need to buy a Radial reamp di? couldn't i just take one of the outs on my 2408 into an amp? or does that lack something?
Well....
Your 2408 will be sending a +4 signal. whick is not what your amp is looking for..This is where you need a reamp device...Once I tried switching my 2408 over to -10 unbalanced, and ran that signal straight into the amp, without a reamp device...The results were not very good, so I just leave the 2408 at +4, and run into a Reamp box..
yeah. i'll have to get one. how about the signal being recorded first. i'll probably just use the instrument jack on my octopre or digimax. will that be suffice?
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I never went for the mic behind the amp technique - it never worked for me. It's kind of like the maple acoustic guitar - I hear other people play one and like it, then I try one and just don't like it ad head back for good ol' rosewood.
A technique I haven't seen mentioned that I have used with a lot of success was to use 2 mics taped together (one atop the other) so that the capsules were in perfect alignment. I place a little piece of foam between them to keep them from knocking each other. I like using 2 very different mics (an SM7 and a KM184 or a 421 and a C480). You can then either use the balance between the 2 as a sort of tone control or pan them hard to each side for a stereoized effect.
The only other 2 mic setup I like is a room mic with a close mic - I place the room mic at ear level at about 3 steps in front of the amp and pointing at the amps face.
I think the "S" and "M" position on the 421 stand for "Speech" and "Music" respectively. The S position roll-off is there to compensate for boomy close-mic'd voices caused by the proximity effect inherant in directional mics. Alternate theory: the deviant engineers at Sennheiser were big Nina Hagen fans, and were looking for a new toy.
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sdemott wrote:I never went for the mic behind the amp technique - it never worked for me. It's kind of like the maple acoustic guitar - I hear other people play one and like it, then I try one and just don't like it ad head back for good ol' rosewood.
I thought the idea was weird until I tried it. I wonder if it worked for me because the amp I use has a very open back? Plus, I suppose the room you're recording in makes a difference. Sometimes, I've used the arms on the sides of my amp to tilt it back, and I got some neat slap echo off of a concrete floor from the mic in back.
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