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Yes, but having a Dell & an Apple side by side on my desk here at work there are slight differneces between the 2. The Dell is slightly less crisp and the colors of the 2 are slightly different too.
The caveat that no one mentions is that Dell buys panels that Apple rejects as not being quite good enough for their products.
That being said - I can get a 24" Dell for less than a 20" Apple. I think it's a no brainer.
sdemott wrote:...having a Dell & an Apple side by side on my desk here at work there are slight differneces between the 2.
FWIW, I have two IDENTICAL 19" ViewSonics (VX910) side by side and there is a bit of a color, brightness and contrast difference on each, both using the same profile, and if I try to correct the difference with different profiles, I cannot match the two. But it is not enought to make a difference in my work. If I did graphics, than it WOULD be a problem.
sdemott wrote:...having a Dell & an Apple side by side on my desk here at work there are slight differneces between the 2.
FWIW, I have two IDENTICAL 19" ViewSonics (VX910) side by side and there is a bit of a color, brightness and contrast difference on each, both using the same profile, and if I try to correct the difference with different profiles, I cannot match the two. But it is not enought to make a difference in my work. If I did graphics, than it WOULD be a problem.
Yes but - with 3 Apple 20" Cinemas side by side (I just did this). There is no difference in color or contrast with the settings the same. Perhaps I should have been more clear on that note about the differences. If I split a window over the Apple & Dell with both graphics & text (Illustrator document) - the Dell's whites are off, the blues are too hot and the text is a bit "fuzzier". If I do that over 3 apple cinemas they are frighteningly accurate.
The other thing I notice with the Dells is that their viewable angle is much smaller.
again - at the price difference I'm not complaining. For any work that doesn't involve design for print these are great displays at a great price.
sdemott wrote:Yes but - with 3 Apple 20" Cinemas side by side (I just did this). There is no difference in color or contrast with the settings the same.
That's pretty much what I have suspected about the Apple Cinema Displays -- they really do seem top notch.
My older 15inch one is a joy to work with, but damn small in the year 2007!
sdemott wrote:...having a Dell & an Apple side by side on my desk here at work there are slight differneces between the 2.
FWIW, I have two IDENTICAL 19" ViewSonics (VX910) side by side and there is a bit of a color, brightness and contrast difference on each, both using the same profile, and if I try to correct the difference with different profiles, I cannot match the two. But it is not enought to make a difference in my work. If I did graphics, than it WOULD be a problem.
Yes but - with 3 Apple 20" Cinemas side by side (I just did this). There is no difference in color or contrast with the settings the same. Perhaps I should have been more clear on that note about the differences. If I split a window over the Apple & Dell with both graphics & text (Illustrator document) - the Dell's whites are off, the blues are too hot and the text is a bit "fuzzier". If I do that over 3 apple cinemas they are frighteningly accurate.
The other thing I notice with the Dells is that their viewable angle is much smaller.
again - at the price difference I'm not complaining. For any work that doesn't involve design for print these are great displays at a great price.
I'm not arguing with you about that. If I had 8 grand to shell out for three cinema displays... well, I'd buy two 30". Three would be too much of a temtation to do things that humans go blind from.
emulatorloo wrote:You know, those Dells do look nice, but Dell and Michael Dell annoy the hell out of me. . .somehow I just cant bear to give them money. Silly me I know.
I wonder whether Frodo's checked out the Dells?
Been researchin' LCD's for a while now and dreamin'.
The Dells really do look good. I'd check 'em out.
Might be good to hear from a MOTU user on this one, 'though.
monkey man wrote:
Agreed!
Frodo, take note!
Well, a very late night that ended at 5:30 this morning prevented me from heading down to nab the Viewsonic(s).
Hello, Delly. Well, hello Delly-- it's so nice... to...
Frodo wrote:I've seen the Formac 2010 in action. Couldn't give it a true monitor test, but it sure looked great.
I have two of these and they're nice. I play pretty much too and I've liked the graphics and visuals very much. They're 4:3 ratio, which was important to me, as there's some usable extra space compared to 16:9 20,1" display.
MOTU has the picture on their site of DP running on two apple 30" cinema displays. Now that would be nice Only I need four GPUs to feed those monsters, so that's two G5s then..not going to happen any time around.
Frodo wrote:Well, a very late night that ended at 5:30 this morning prevented me from heading down to nab the Viewsonic(s). Hello, Delly. Well, hello Delly-- it's so nice... to...
sorry.
Please don't be sorry; you're an entertaining little Hobbit!
Could be a bonus that you "missed out" today. Not sure how much viewing angles and colour matching would matter to a Hobbit; I suppose that would depend on how serious he was about graphic work.
Still, you'd probably agree that this sort of "last-minute" delay smacks of purpose. Perhaps your best move at this time is no move at all?
I have 2 dell 20' widescreens.....the dell 20 inchers work great and adjust nicely above a 2 keyboard setup. have my genelecs on either side and no mag leakage. no dead pixels and you can get them cheap if you hunt around
boccaccio7070 wrote:I have 2 dell 20' widescreens.....the dell 20 inchers work great and adjust nicely above a 2 keyboard setup. have my genelecs on either side and no mag leakage. no dead pixels and you can get them cheap if you hunt around
Thanks, boccaccio! Good news and useful information.
I've been watching the development of their 24" model/s too. They just recently introduced a faster one to their range. I've had to extrapolate feedback on the more popular 20" model to the 24" model, so I hope this isn't too flawed.
I've heard they're clear, bright and "snappy"! (Technical terms).
If I had to worry about broadcast quality graphics (like getting our music done by deadline isn't enough) I would say the Cinema display is relevant, but for music apps, the Dells are great, and I was able to buy Kontakt 2, MOTU MX-4, Altiverb 5 and 15,000 RX2 loops with the money i saved.
For that kind of sonic equity, I'll endure the .0009567% (est.) increase in squint muscle calorie burn. Only excerise I get, locked as i am to this hellish workstation
I got my 2 Dell widescreen 20's for 324 dollars each, and the are just as disinterested as the Apple Cinema's when it comes to hurling expletives at MOTU when the "closed unexpectedly" notice comes up.
from stage left, the voice of reason.....Like a shivering, wild eyed bum who suddenly appears from the shadows and is then upon you, give me a minute of your time, .....
you see, I am trying to get out from under the MOTU tyranny of elite dullness....And I noticed you have a Lavry Blue AD/DA convertor.... lucky stiff!!....what is the street price? I have never told anyone till now, but i have been a turnin' and a twitchin' in my sleep just thinkin bout that there fancy contraption.
I want out of my 1224/424 pci hell-hole, and into something that allows me full ears-on experience with jitter free sound.
I was not planning on spending Lavry prices, but please, if you would, talk me into it. or a close second if your heart is open and one comes to mind.
Combined with the central station i ordered last week but have yet to recieve (nuetral tapping of my foot) what else would i need to get my Muzak from my G5 computer to my genelec 1031A's?
In terms of I/O interface, My poor cousin "oh well" choice was the focusrite sapphire pro which i i have on pre order (tap tap with mild urgency) along with the liquid mix (tapping quickly now...pulse elevated).
Am i missing a crucial piece of gear I hadn't considered?
Speaker-wise, Are these older generation Genelecs 1031A's able to benefit from the (i presume) enhamced soundstage clarity and depth of field the Lavry Blue AD/DA convertor would provide (am i off assuming again?) or do I need something like the ribbon tweetered ADAM or the Oblong Tannoys to realize a difference that would inspire, as opposed to impress?
so please, give me your thoughts/review on 3 things;
1- the Lavry (with possible alternative Interface options at no cost to me if i act by midnight tonight)
2- my current signal path fuzzy dice logic
3- the Central station.
I say "Why not?", as long as you are lounging there trying
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Only I need four GPUs to feed those monsters, so that's two G5s then..not going to happen any time around.
