Garritan's Personal Orchestra question

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:53 pm

obliou wrote:MIDI Life: I'm really just a rank beginner when it comes to most of this stuff... my comment was mostly about the ranges in GPO seeming correct. I'm curious about why you don't use it or Finale. What do you use and why do you like it?[/list]

Quicktime instruments work fine for me. It's only a sketch in Finale.

MarkH · Post by **MarkH** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:05 am

The demo mp3's of MSI at the MOTU web site sound great. I've also heard a few songs composed by other artists who use MSI and they sound fantastic as well. For the life of me I cannot get my songs to have the same crystal clear, prestine sound as the demo mp3's.

I bought MSI last week and "out of the box" it sounds different than what I perceived it to be. The mp3's at the MOTU site are much more polished sounding. I know I'm just being overly anxious and setting my expectations too high by playing with MSI fresh out of the box. I really need to work with the panning, reverb, effects, dynamics, etc.. I have yet to find any library that has a perfectly polished sound out of the box. Imagine if Spectrasonics made an Orchestral Library - HOT HOT HOT signal.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:15 am

MarkH wrote:I bought MSI last week and "out of the box" it sounds different than what I perceived it to be....

The demos are clearly well produced and surrounded in most cases with other sound libraries (which are credited). I caught a bunch of slack for pointing out that this may be somewhat misleading advertising, but was shot down.

After really examining the demos and reading reviews of MSI on this site, I decided it was not worth the expense in my studio. There really is no replacement for a real symphony orchestra. Probably never will be.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:08 am

Mark,

Thank you for your personal message. However, I prefer to discuss such matters in the open. If you are uncomfortable with that, then this may be the wrong place for you to get the information you want.

gdw3 · Post by **gdw3** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:25 am

Yes, GPO does take some tweaking to get the sounds to sound good. Get intimate with your mod wheel! GPO makes a lot of use of this for timbre changes. Brass generally not too good, though.

Garritan did use DP to make the sample sequences on their site.

Also, someone was talking about loading and unloading of sounds. I'm not exactly sure what they meant, but maybe try loading the GPO into a V-rack, instead of individual chunks?

kwiz · Post by **kwiz** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:48 pm

I love the GPO!
I agree with gdw3.... you need to "get intimate with your mod wheel".
Once you truly understand how it with the sounds to emulate swells etc.
you'll be able to re-create life like string/orchestral performances.
For the money, GPO can't be beat.

MIDI Life Crisis · Post by **MIDI Life Crisis** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:56 pm

kwiz wrote:I love the GPO!
I agree with gdw3.... you need to "get intimate with your mod wheel".
Once you truly understand how it with the sounds to emulate swells etc.
you'll be able to re-create life like string/orchestral performances.
For the money, GPO can't be beat.

For all that I don't use it that much, it was the cost that was attractive. I don't regret buying it, but I would love to see it develop into something more.

I had bought DP at ver 2.71 and felt the same way. I didn't actually use theprogram until a few years after I paid for it (a reverse pirate, I guess?) But it has devloped into my primary tool these days.

MarkH · Post by **MarkH** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:03 pm

MIDI Life Crisis wrote:Thank you for your personal message. However, I prefer to discuss such matters in the open.

As far as I know, there is no demo version of DP available.

No problem. I'm already on-board with DP. I wasn't sure if you were using it or not. Just after buying DP 4.5 I had a burglary and most of my hardware and software was stolen. Life sucked for most of 2005 but in the end it all worked out and I'm back in business and just ramping up with DP now.

I've come to the conclusion that after listening to the MOTU mp3 demos of MSI, GPO demos, EWQL demos, and then hearing peoples' comments after they purchase them, there is no "out of the box" Symphony that's perfect. Even Vienna is known to have its moments and that's several times the price of all the others combined.

I'm not a fan of the Komtakt player. Actually it's really more about my bitterness towards Native Instruments. I know I shouldn't hold that against anyone, but I also have a soft spot for UVI based plugins.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:56 pm

MarkH wrote:I'm not a fan of the Komtakt player. Actually it's really more about my bitterness towards Native Instruments.

Bitterness over what? (if you don't mind telling us) I don't mean to pry, but I kind of like Native Instruments, and would appreciate knowing if there is some backstabbing behavior of theirs I should know about before getting too comfortable with their stuff.

Shooshie

dpdan · Post by **dpdan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:34 pm

take a listen...
please download it first, this will eliminate interuption during viewing.

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/DPDAN/K ... 0Magic.mov

Dan