DP 4.6 IS OUT

[Socolov]

Hows th CPU and RAM usage compared to 4.52 ?
Is 4.6 lighter and more easy on the computer ?
And also liked to know the same thing
when you use NI`s plugins.
I`m recently using QLSO Gold, Bosendorfer 290,
Storm Drums, and also Kontakt 2.0.2.

I`m really hesitating to update,
because I hear people having problems and
hearing that it eats more power then 4.52.
The new feature looks really cool and think MOTU
did a great job. Now I don`t want anymore new features
for DP4, please just make it stable and more lighter.
That all I want.
BTW, I`m using OS10.3.8 on G4 1GHz Dual.
I`m not thinking of updateing to 10.3.9 because
I heard there were problems with JAVA and stuff,
and don`t want to go through correcting it.
Since I use a web browser (Safari) for
Product registrations.

[amplidood]

Posting my warning again about timing erraticness when playing VI's from a V-Rack. It's all over the place. Put the VI back in the chunk with everything else....perfect. You can print it, invert phase with a Trim, and get total silence with the MIDI tracks playing.

[Grigri]

Originally posted by Sylver:
Well, I guess I should hang back for now. I'm a new Mac user and only have Tiger, so ...

Oh well, I'm a new DP user so I still have plenty of things to learn while they work out the bugs.

Is there anyone using Tiger on a G5 with 4.6 that isn't having problems?

Yes, I do.
Working for 2 days with 4.6 and tiger 4.1.
I work for a song audio only (30 tracks) on a G5 2x1.8
Hope that helps
Grigri

[thracks]

Originally posted by blue:
When I set up a template, I almost always have my VIs routed to one bus or another for submixing. When I need to print something, I just create an audio track with the same assignments and hit record. I guess it's one more step than freezing a track, but I never notice because this is how I work. I almost never use freeze tracks.

Not that that's the only way to work, but it certainly doesn't seem hard to work that way.

True. Right now it seems the benefits of using V-Racks far outweigh the extra work in printing to audio. I'm a happy camper

P.S.

Twice, I've had DP give me an Audio Overload warning during playback. Stopping playback and clearing the warning seems to clear things up, but this should not be happening. I'll have to investigate later.

<small>[ July 09, 2005, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: thracks ]</small>

[dix]

Originally posted by Socolov:
Hows th CPU and RAM usage compared to 4.52 ?
Is 4.6 lighter and more easy on the computer ?

Sadly the opposite is true. The GUI doesn't seem any slower but the processor spikes are through the roof on my system. Unlike the 4.5 to 4.52 update however, installing 4.6 doesn't appear to effect the previous version of DP. ....plus you get the Pattern Gate plugin which shows up in both versions so it's definitely worth downloading and installing.

[Shooshie]

Socolov, I use a similar machine to yours, and I also experienced trouble with 10.3.9, but moving on to Tiger was a very good thing for me, and fixed just about everything. DP 4.6 has also been most welcome. I can't say it's any better or worse CPU/wise, but I did find that turning off Dashboard helped my problem of the CPU spiking. There is an Applescript utility for that, should you decide to go ahead with Tiger/DP 4.6.

Then again, others are saying it didn't solve their problems. But it did solve my problem... that's all I can say.

Shooshie

[ryst]

Just wanted to chime in.....NO PROBLESM AT ALL. None. I think the update is great. Haven't messed with the Audio to MIDI too much yet. I don't get it. Even after reading the PDF. The multiple AU outs is great. I'm digging it.

[Henry Robinett]

So far I'm problem free as well. I had some drop outs early on, but that may have been a couple of things . . . I have noticed, and this does relate to the drop outs, that when I open an old file drop outs occur as DP analyses it's DSP on soundbites. It was driving me crazy at first. I had a project from a concert I recorded and was about to mix that was well over an hour in length. It was droppig all over the place, until I merged soundbites seperating the specific songs. I think even with the G5 DP was choking trying to analyse 18 tracks for 1:30!

[Sylver]

I don't really have anything to say, but I thought I'd make it three Music Player forum member posts in a row.

Hi Henry! Hi Ryst!

[waxman]

I am having spikes. And I have a G5 2.5 with 4 gig... I tried turning off the widgets (thanks Shooshie... but I still got em... Next I cranked the buffer up to 512 and there has only been a few since.

But a 512 buffer is not going to work for me when tracking or even VI overdubs.

I crank the buffer down to 128 and use a live five piece rhythym section in multirecord. A drummer on trapkat to BFD, keyboard on NI Komplete 2. Then two live guitar player and I play bass.

It has been working great in 4.52 and we are getting good tracks. I opened a few songs in 4.6 and have been doing odubs and editing and getting spikes and a few weird processor distortions before the spikes. Usually the crash of a cymbal seems to set it off.

If I can't track again Tuesday in 4.6 I will post and let you know. I can just track in 4.52 if need be. I am glad this upgrade did not trash 4.52. I do like the new update. It just might need a 4.61 to fix these little things. For the most part I give it a B with some extra homework MOTU will have it up to an A+++ in no time....

waxman

[bigdaddy]

Ah yes, device groups - Forgot about those little guys. I haven't used them since I dumped all my hardware synths. Cool, that would work for driving multiple VI's from one track. There's still the issue of freeze, but I can go back to working like I did in the Pre-Freeze days when dealing with a V-Rack.

The timing thing bothers me though and I'll have to try it with a drum track. The one project I used a V-Rack in has 2 Automat's with fairly long attacks and releases, so some timing slop wouldn't be noticed like it would with drums.

Still not having any crash problems under 10.4.1 - I'll try the pitch thing and see if that breaks DP. Still hesitant to put 4.6 on my pristine working 4.5 partition though...

<small>[ July 09, 2005, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: Big Daddy ]</small>

[Shooshie]

Well, Henry has brought up a point that takes me back to square-one. If the DP is having to analyze those soundbites again, then maybe THAT's what's causing the spikes. I turned off Dashboard, then reopened the same old file, but by then enough time had passed to analyze all those soundbites. So maybe that's why the spikes stopped. Just to be sure, I turned on Dashboard again. But this time I opened a different file. The spikes were back. I turned off Dashboard and re-opened the same file. Now it had time to process all those soundbites as well. The spikes were gone.

Which is it? Dashboard? Or the reprocessing of soundbites in the background? I don't know at this point, and I'm not going to figure it out tonight, but I'll look into it more closely tomorrow. But as you can see, it's very possible that it wasn't Dashboard at all. OR... it could be a combination of BOTH!

So, there is still much to consider. Some people are saying that Dashboard isn't affecting them at all, so I'm inclined to believe that it's either a combination of Dashboard AND background processing, or else it's really just the latter.

Boy-o-boy-o-boy... so much to know; so little time. But let me say this much: Thanks, MOTU! This update rocks!

Shooshie

[ronnie fitz]

How go you turn of Dashboard??????

[qo]

Looks like 4.6 is going to work out after all. A big "thank you" to Timeline for stopping by and figuring out that the Apogee FireMix console is a big source of the crash problems I was experiencing (and also for sharing a bunch of DP, and other, wisdom).

[thracks]

Regarding Dashbord. Looks like OS 10.4.2 will address memory problems with Dashboard and include a new Widget Manager. link here. Maybe this will help us?