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[Phil O]

I'm going to try using the Band Delay unit to splay the frequencies out into the stereo field of a reverb plugin to try to accomplish an asymmetrical reverberation space, with hard spaces on one side and open spaces on the other, for instance, and simulate varying absorption characteristics in the stereo field of the reverb, and thus produce more interesting direction-based late and early reflections, perhaps.

A bit off topic but...

Terry, I've been doing a lot of experimenting with various reverb techniques. Lately it involves some math (to get realistic reflection times, etc.) and crazy routing to and between aux tracks. There are things I hadn't thought of before that now are becoming routine. Just to give you some food for thought:

-Ducking reverb. Place a side-chain compressor (before or after, depending on desired effect) a reverb or delay plug-in and use vocal track to feed the side-chain. This allows you to use a little more reverb (if that's what you're going for) on the vocal without it sounding like more. It reduces the reverb during vocal phrases but let's it through during the rests letting you use a little more but maintaining an in-your-face vocal. Gives you more control and options than the built in compressor on some reverb plug-ins. Of course, it doesn't need to be limited to vocals. You could, for instance, duck a guitar reverb with a tambourine send if that tickles your fancy.

-EQ'd delay. Set up separate aux tracks with an EQ and delay plug for each surface of your room. These auxes are then routed to a single (or multiple) reverbs, essentially becoming separate EQ'd pre-delays.

-Different panning schemes. Instead of panning a reverb or delay send, use mono sends to reverb/delay auxes and pan the aux track instead. You can have a right reverb aux, left reverb aux, center, left-center, etc.

-Multiband compression on reverb.

-Ring modulator track from reverb aux send. Mix this in so it's barely perceptible then back it off a little more. Adds an interesting grit to the reverb. A little bit like when you've just moved in to an apartment or house and the rooms are completely empty.

The possibilities are endless. Think outside the box.

Phil

[Rick Cornish]

-Ducking reverb. Place a side-chain compressor (before or after, depending on desired effect) a reverb or delay plug-in and use vocal track to feed the side-chain. This allows you to use a little more reverb (if that's what you're going for) on the vocal without it sounding like more. It reduces the reverb during vocal phrases but let's it through during the rests letting you use a little more but maintaining an in-your-face vocal. Gives you more control and options than the built in compressor on some reverb plug-ins. Of course, it doesn't need to be limited to vocals. You could, for instance, duck a guitar reverb with a tambourine send if that tickles your fancy.

Good one, Phil. I think ducking is one of the most useful mixing techniques in the toolbox. When I’m mixing music under a voice-over, I always slap a ducker on the music buss to “paint” the music under the voice and let it come up to fill open spaces more naturally.


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[terrybritton]

I'm going to try using the Band Delay unit to splay the frequencies out into the stereo field of a reverb plugin to try to accomplish an asymmetrical reverberation space, with hard spaces on one side and open spaces on the other, for instance, and simulate varying absorption characteristics in the stereo field of the reverb, and thus produce more interesting direction-based late and early reflections, perhaps.

A bit off topic but...

Terry, I've been doing a lot of experimenting with various reverb techniques. Lately it involves some math (to get realistic reflection times, etc.) and crazy routing to and between aux tracks. There are things I hadn't thought of before that now are becoming routine. Just to give you some food for thought:

-Ducking reverb. Place a side-chain compressor (before or after, depending on desired effect) a reverb or delay plug-in and use vocal track to feed the side-chain. This allows you to use a little more reverb (if that's what you're going for) on the vocal without it sounding like more. It reduces the reverb during vocal phrases but let's it through during the rests letting you use a little more but maintaining an in-your-face vocal. Gives you more control and options than the built in compressor on some reverb plug-ins. Of course, it doesn't need to be limited to vocals. You could, for instance, duck a guitar reverb with a tambourine send if that tickles your fancy.

-EQ'd delay. Set up separate aux tracks with an EQ and delay plug for each surface of your room. These auxes are then routed to a single (or multiple) reverbs, essentially becoming separate EQ'd pre-delays.

-Different panning schemes. Instead of panning a reverb or delay send, use mono sends to reverb/delay auxes and pan the aux track instead. You can have a right reverb aux, left reverb aux, center, left-center, etc.

-Multiband compression on reverb.

-Ring modulator track from reverb aux send. Mix this in so it's barely perceptible then back it off a little more. Adds an interesting grit to the reverb. A little bit like when you've just moved in to an apartment or house and the rooms are completely empty.

The possibilities are endless. Think outside the box.

Phil

I love all these ideas - a LOT!

Off for some play time!

Terry

[Rick Cornish]

Got this one: Today (June 16) only, get a 45% discount on all Skippy’s patch sets (except his newest one).

For those who aren’t familiar with his work, John “Skippy” Lemkuhl is a former Korg programmer who has been on his own for some time as Plug-In Guru. He publishes excellent patch sets for most of the most popular VIs... a lot of good stuff. He also offers a lot of walk-through videos and training on programming.

No discount code needed. Until midnight PDT only.

https://www.pluginguru.com/products/

[HCMarkus]

I just ordered Native instruments Complete Ultimate Collector's (upgrade from Complete Ultimate 8-12) for $300 from Sweetwater. Amazon and B&H show the same price, offered as part of NI's Summer Sale. Couldn't pass up this deal, migrating from Ultimate 10. NI's sale price on its website is $500 for the same upgrade. Upgrade to straight Ultimate is now $200 from the resellers, but I wanted the full symphonic stuff, so sprung the extra $100 for Collector's, which is about 900GB all told. This well will not run dry for a long time.

Then I discovered how cheap SATA SSDs are these days... $109 for a Crucial MX500 which uses TLC. Samsung's QLC 1TB drive is under $100. I sprung for the tried and tested TLC MX500, but for sample storage, QLC (the new economy SSD NAND format) should be fine, too.

[mikehalloran]

I just ordered Native instruments Complete Ultimate Collector's (upgrade from Complete Ultimate 8-12) for $300 from Sweetwater. Amazon and B&H show the same price, offered as part of NI's Summer Sale. Couldn't pass up this deal, migrating from Ultimate 10. NI's sale price on its website is $500 for the same upgrade. Upgrade to straight Ultimate is now $200 from the resellers, but I wanted the full symphonic stuff, so sprung the extra $100 for Collector's, which is about 900GB all told. This well will not run dry for a long time.

Then I discovered how cheap SATA SSDs are these days... $109 for a Crucial MX500 which uses TLC. Samsung's QLC 1TB drive is under $100. I sprung for the tried and tested TLC MX500, but for sample storage, QLC (the new economy SSD NAND format) should be fine, too.

Looking at it though it's a $500 upgrade for me. I want the Symphony Series and that's a $548 "crossgrade" so there's the savings.

Yes, SSDs are getting a little less expensive again. I installed a Crucial 1P into my daughter's 2015 MBP for $127. Because of the PCIe 2 bus, a fast blade like the 970 EVO was a waste of $$$ but the 1P smokes the original AHCI blade to the max speed of that bus and the performance boot was quite noticeable.

[DAWdler]

Traveler from Tonstrum is 50% off. A cool Doppler plugin.

https://tonsturm.com/

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Traveler from Tonstrum is 50% off. A cool Doppler plugin.

https://tonsturm.com/

Seems like that would be invaluable for film sound design. Watching the YouTube video, the app is also quite deep in terms of parameters. I like how it allows you to change the listener position. I think I'm out $115... Thanks, DAWdler (great effing' name!)

[cuttime]

I have quite a few wavetables. Is it worth another $15? (I'm really not trying to sound like a cheap bastard)
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... 3796283720

EDIT: I see this one goes on sale frequently.

[DAWdler]

Thanks, DAWdler (great effing' name!)

That’s high praise coming from you!

[MIDI Life Crisis]

Thanks, DAWdler (great effing' name!)

That’s high praise coming from you!

[mikehalloran]

I have quite a few wavetables. Is it worth another $15? (I'm really not trying to sound like a cheap bastard)
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... 3796283720

EDIT: I see this one goes on sale frequently.

The Factory Library comes with over 750 unique presets which will suit a broad range of genres such as EDM, Hiphop, Trap, RnB, Dubstep, Drum N Bass and much more. With over 200 factory wavetables, 100 multi sampled instruments, over 250 single samples and dozens of Sequencer presets you will have plenty of content to craft your own unique sound.

What, no preset for Talent? Dealbreaker for me.

[MIDI Life Crisis]

What, no preset for Talent? Dealbreaker for me.

There is no talent. There is only play, or no play.

GarageBand! You seek GarageBand!

[Basstrup]

Been waiting since NAMM for this one. Relab finally released Sonsig Rev-A - super lush reverb.

Just got from Sweetwater - they do have it, just not yet on their website. Intro price $99. Regular $149

There's a trial version on Relabs website, buy from Sweetwater and support the sponsor.

[mhschmieder]

https://rolandcloud.com/synthsofsummer? ... content=DT

Two-year might be worth it at that price. I rarely use soft synths but theirs are as good as Korg's. I tried to buy two of them a couple of years ago but the money was refunded as they were about to start the sub-only approach. I can't justify the $250/year price with how little I use soft synths anymore.

https://www.audiodeluxe.com/taxonomy/te ... now%3Atrue

Similarly, I already have Virtual CZ (or was that used as the basis for Arturia's?) and Xils-Lab SynX, as well as G-Force M-Tron Pro, so only the Mellotron interests me in the short-term, of the three new plug-ins, and V6 to V7 upgrade isn't on sale (even normally; it's full price for everyone). I don't understand "Make an offer" for a regular sales site, unless it's like on eBay, but might "offer" $69 for Mellotron (which has an extended feature set vs. M-Tron Pro) and wait for V8 of the suite to upgrade from V6.