A Beatles Virtual Instrument

Discussion of Digital Performer use, optimization, tips and techniques on MacOS.

Moderator: James Steele

Forum rules
This forum is for most discussion related to the use and optimization of Digital Performer [MacOS] and plug-ins as well as tips and techniques. It is NOT for troubleshooting technical issues, complaints, feature requests, or "Comparative DAW 101."
User avatar
kassonica
Posts: 5231
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Post by kassonica »

Any Beatles cover band who did revolution # 9 # 9 # 9 i'd gladly pay money for. :twisted:


As for the rest BAH no matter how well it's done i'd prefer to watch the real thing on DVD.


For me NO one can capture the vibe and energy and i'd be sitting there the whole time feeling stupid and thinking this is a cartoon.
Creativity, some digital stuff and analogue things that go boom. crackle, bits of wood with strings on them that go twang
User avatar
kassonica
Posts: 5231
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Post by kassonica »

There is no other purpose for this post other than to have the 1111 post.

I'm Sorry if i have wasted your time in anyway.
Creativity, some digital stuff and analogue things that go boom. crackle, bits of wood with strings on them that go twang
User avatar
Frodo
Posts: 15598
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: The Shire

Post by Frodo »

zed wrote:
If I was in control of the setlist, here are some of the songs I would have selected:

I Feel Fine
Rain
Ticket To Ride
I Need You
Norwegian Wood
Think For Yourself
I'm Looking Through You
If I Needed Someone
Here, There and Everywhere
Dr. Robert
Getting Better
Good Morning, Good Morning
You're Mother Should Know
I Am The Walrus
Hello Goodbye


INTERMISSION

Hey Bulldog
Baby You're A Rich Man
Dear Prudence
Happiness is a Warm Gun
Julia
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
Sexy Sadie
Martha My Dear
Savoy Truffle
Oh! Darling
I Want You
Dig a Pony
One After 909
I've Got a Feeling
Let it Be (
instead of Hey Jude)


Now that would be a good set list, just for starters. Unfortunately, these are the songs that rarely get played by the tribute bands. :-(

Anyone else have any comments or suggestions? Wanna start a tribute band?
Honestly, I think I'd complain about any tribute band's set list to the extent that there's always some favorite that would have to be omitted in the interest of time.

Among my faves not included in your list would be:

Early:
It Won't Be Long
Hold Me Tight
All My Loving
Don't Bother Me
Not A Second Time
Ask Me Why
I Should Have Known Better
If I Fell
Tell Me Why
She's A Woman
When I Get Home
You Can't Do That
I'll Be Back
Yes It Is
I'll Follow The Sun
No Reply
I'm A Loser
Eight Days A Week
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
Every Little Thing

-- and everything from "Help!"-- especially:
The Night Before
You're Going To Lose That Girl
Another Girl


For later material, I'd almost have to list every song from Help!/Rubber Soul forward. With some exceptions allowed for Mystery Tour and Submarine, the albums from Rubber Soul onwards are (for me) "families" of tunes that just belong together. I might be able to pick around the early material, but once I get the "Help!" and beyond, I tend to find myself glued to the album/CD until the whole thing is done.

My problem is that there's not a Beatle tune I don't like and there are way too many that I love. These tunes are like potato chips-- I can't eat just one, or two, or three, or....

I'd even go for "Rev #9" and "Flying" if given the choice.

Then there are the singles which didn't appear on the albums-- at least not on the Parlophone releases.

Ugh. Zed, you may want to confer with someone less hopeless than I!
6,1 MacPro, 96GB RAM, macOS Monterey 12.7.6, DP 11.33
User avatar
emulatorloo
Posts: 3227
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Iowa

Post by emulatorloo »

I note that FAB FOUR is included in EastWest's holiday sale:

http://www.soundsonline.com/2007-Holida ... p-201.html

--

FAB FOUR - List price $395 - SALE PRICE $276.50!
Inspired by the sounds of the Beatles, using the same kind of rare period instruments and authentic recording equipment the Beatles used to create their music. (check out the new video tutorials on the product page). PROMO CODE NOT REQUIRED.

---
User avatar
zed
Posts: 3193
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Vancouver, BC

Post by zed »

Frodo wrote:My problem is that there's not a Beatle tune I don't like and there are way too many that I love. These tunes are like potato chips-- I can't eat just one, or two, or three, or....
Don't get me wrong... I love them all too. It's just that given the time restraints, I would prefer not to hear all the mainstream songs. By all means dress up like Sgt. Pepper, but could you please NOT play the title song (and the reprise) and instead play Fixing a Hole or Getting Better or Within You, Without You!?!

If we only get to hear one raunchy song from the White Album, then I would rather hear Everybody's Got Something to Hide Except for Me and My Monkey much more than Revolution or While My Guitar Gently Weeps. I would just find that to be a more interesting experience. But maybe that's just me.
Frodo wrote:I'd even go for "Rev #9" and "Flying" if given the choice.
I don't think I'd miss Revolution #9, but Flying should be on my set list, for sure. I love the more obscure stuff.

But I agree with you... the whole albums are works of art, and I'd actually prefer to go see a Tribute band performing a whole album, rather than a selection of favorites.

Speaking of song lists, Mr Frodo... Have you by any chance compiled a list of essential Beatles songs which use the AC30? I want to put together an iTunes playlist of such songs so that I can practise along with my new VOX amPlug. I could figure out a suitable selection myself, but if you already have done the grunt work, or can list off some key songs from the top of your head, I would appreciate getting those. Thanks. :-)
MacPro 2.8 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon | 14 GB RAM | OS 10.11.6 | DP 8
User avatar
Frodo
Posts: 15598
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: The Shire

Post by Frodo »

zed wrote: But I agree with you... the whole albums are works of art, and I'd actually prefer to go see a Tribute band performing a whole album, rather than a selection of favorites.
No doubt-- there are "fans" and then there are "FANS". You and I are hopelessly in the latter category. I'm a whole album person myself and could sit through 2-3 sets of a tribute concert if it meant I'd get to hear all of Rubber Soul, Revolver, Pepper, and Abbey Road among other things.

I tend to find myself in the frame of mind to focus on one era at a time with them. Here's how I'd divide their creative period:

#1: Please, Please Me, With The Beatles, Hard Day's Night

#2: Beatles For Sale, Help!

#3. Rubber Soul, Revolver

#4: Pepper, Mystery Tour, Submarine

#5: White Album, Let It Be, Abbey Road

Each category feels so different, and Submarine is almost in a category of its own, but it bears more resemblance to Mystery Tour than the White Album (I think).
zed wrote: Speaking of song lists, Mr Frodo... Have you by any chance compiled a list of essential Beatles songs which use the AC30? I want to put together an iTunes playlist of such songs so that I can practise along with my new VOX amPlug. I could figure out a suitable selection myself, but if you already have done the grunt work, or can list off some key songs from the top of your head, I would appreciate getting those. Thanks. :-)
I've done nothing definitive-- still trying to get my hands on the Recording Sessions book. But I'd suspect that the bulk of their recordings up to and including Help! were largely AC30. I've seen photos of various Gibsons during the Cavern days, and then there were Selmer and Fender amps sneaking into Rubber Soul and beyond. I'd also read a few tidbits of Abbey Road having to build a bass amp for Paul from scratch during the Please, Please Me sessions

The Beatles Gear website focuses only on Vox, Fender, and Ampeg-- but there were others in use. What might be helpful is to check out the site:

http://www.beatlesgear.com/index2.html

It seems that there are some dates included with various amp models, and those dates can be cross-compared to various appearances or album releases. Without the Recording Sessions book it's a little tricky to get much more accurate than that.

Vox had a monopoly on their live concerts from '64-'66, but we know for sure that by the time of Rubber Soul they'd started using other gear in the studio-- mixing and matching?
e-loo wrote:I note that FAB FOUR is included in EastWest's holiday sale:
Here we are almost a year after the announcement. In some ways I wish I'd waited since it's taken all this time for PLAY to *start* to mature. But, this thread has been priceless and I'm glad I got into it when I did. The sale is great for newbs because FabFour seems to be working fairly well now with some DP quirks finally hammered out. It still has some minor issues with advanced MIDI control to sort out, but for the most part it's finally at the B+/A- phase and holding strong.

I'm keeping my eyes peeled for the expansion library!! :wink:
6,1 MacPro, 96GB RAM, macOS Monterey 12.7.6, DP 11.33
noisetree
Posts: 76
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:01 am
Primary DAW OS: Unspecified

Post by noisetree »

Just found this on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55G1VGu ... re=related

I like it!

noisetree
User avatar
Frodo
Posts: 15598
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: The Shire

Post by Frodo »

noisetree wrote:Just found this on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55G1VGu ... re=related

I like it!

noisetree
That was VERY cool---

I can't decide if I want to practice harder or give up entirely! That guy's a one-man band!

I didn't mind the Michael Hedges version, either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJvkB-JYBlY&NR=1
6,1 MacPro, 96GB RAM, macOS Monterey 12.7.6, DP 11.33
noisetree
Posts: 76
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:01 am
Primary DAW OS: Unspecified

Post by noisetree »

One of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITt_yblSNrs

noisetree
User avatar
Tim
Posts: 2757
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: So Cal

Post by Tim »

noisetree wrote:One of my favourites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITt_yblSNrs

noisetree
How does he play with no head?



The cat is pretty good, but I'm better.............



























































.........at sucking on guitar!!!
User avatar
Frodo
Posts: 15598
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: The Shire

Post by Frodo »

Tee-yum!!

Sucking on guitar? YOU? I don't believe it for a second.
6,1 MacPro, 96GB RAM, macOS Monterey 12.7.6, DP 11.33
dosuna11
Posts: 1130
Joined: Sat May 21, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Mountlake Terrace, Washington
Contact:

Post by dosuna11 »

[quote= And what happened to that herbal jazz cigarette Ringo was smoking a while ago?"
.[/quote]
It's a "Jazz cigarette!"
iMac 2.7Ghz quadcore i5 16 gig RAM DP 7.24 OS 10.6.8, iMac G5 2.1GHz 2.5 gig Ram DP 5.13 OS 10.4.11 MOTU 828 MK2, East West Platinum Plus, Miroslav Philharmonic, Komplete 5, Kontakt 2 Garritan Big Band, Mr Sax T, The Trumpet, DrumCore, Trilogy and Trillian, Ivory, MachFive, Ethno Instrument, Reason 4, SampleTank 2 Sampletron, Samplemoog, Melodyne Editor, Nomad plugins, Vintage Warmer, Ozone 4, Amplitube Jimi, Xgear and AmpegSVX.
http:www.davidosuna.com
User avatar
zed
Posts: 3193
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Vancouver, BC

Post by zed »

dosuna11 wrote:It's a "Jazz cigarette!"
I prefer the psychedelic cigarettes...

Then, even my sucky guitar playing can sound groovy. :P


P.S. Nice jazz guitar playing on your MySpace page, David. You're good!
MacPro 2.8 GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon | 14 GB RAM | OS 10.11.6 | DP 8
User avatar
HCMarkus
Posts: 10425
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:01 am
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: Rancho Bohemia, California
Contact:

Post by HCMarkus »

Just checking in... I like to post every 25 pages or so on this thread. :wink:

Is it a record yet?
HC Markus
M1 Mac Studio Ultra • 64GB RAM • 828es • macOS 15.5 • DP 11.34
https://rbohemia.com
User avatar
Frodo
Posts: 15598
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:01 pm
Primary DAW OS: MacOS
Location: The Shire

Post by Frodo »

HCMarkus wrote:Just checking in... I like to post every 25 pages or so on this thread. :wink:

Is it a record yet?
LOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

At this rate, we should hear from you a couple times a day!!

Not a record yet-- but I gotta say that the latest version of Fab Four and PLAY are easily the best in DP so far. I've never seen this work this well. It's really starting to deliver on its promise.

"I'd like to say thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we've passed the audition". ~ J. Lennon.
6,1 MacPro, 96GB RAM, macOS Monterey 12.7.6, DP 11.33
Post Reply