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"S-s-s-e-e-e-----e-e-e-v-v-v-e-e-e-n-n-n-t-t-t-y-y-y o-o-o-n-n-n-e-e-e-!-!-!" exclaimed the apester before embarking on the long journey back to the other turning flag.

[Monkey jots the score down in his official race scorebook before taking to the trees for an as-the-crow-flies swing back to turning point 2.]

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I gave up Fab Four and bought myself an acoustic guitar!
But the Beatles are inside me!!!

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noisetree wrote:But the Beatles are inside me!!!
Hey! The Beatles are inside of me too! AND there is a monkey above us. :shock: :shock:
What's he going on about, anyway??

I'm still waiting to hear the Frodo report on all things tiny VOX.


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"everybody's got something to hide..." :D

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zed wrote: I'm still waiting to hear the Frodo report on all things tiny VOX.
Sorry for the delay--- I've been totally snowed under, and here it is 4 AM two days later.

I'm about to keel over, but I'm going to do a quickie trial run right now...

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The Vox of Reason.

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Just tried out the AC30 model and I like it. It sounds tons better than my old Zoom trying to do the same thing (more honest, more natural, more analog), and I appreciate not having to deal with those few ms of latency when using Amplitube on the computer. I even like it better than my Pod Pro which was so "digital" that I gave it to a struggling guitarist who could put it to better use than I could.

Tone, of course, is bass/treble cut/boost. Not bad. It was nice to twang away for a while and then turn down the treble for a moment of "I Want You".

Gain adds a nice touch of overdrive when cranked. There's even some tube/voltage noise going on for ambience and character. The tone knob can filter some of this out, as expected, but I like it. Nice touch that they didn't have to include.

In combo with tone, volume, and p.u. knobs/switches on the guitar, I think this little thing is pretty darn cool. I love its simple no-nonsense approach-- and for some reason not having to deal with menus and numeric LCD readouts was a relief.

It's got "that sound"-- that thick "full of snot" analog quality I love so much-- and a certain classic Vox AC30 "character". Nothing beats a great $1000 tube amp, but they really did a fine job with this unit.

Just think-- no one's going to be banging on your door at 3 in the morning to tell you to turn it down.

I'd recommend using headphones with fairly low impedance, ca. 24 ohms as with the Sony V series or similar. I'd stay away from something like AKG 271s or some other studio monitors that require a lot more juice than the Vox may have to offer.

Last-first impression: another vote for the Sony V series is the 1/8" jack. The amPlug is well-built, but with it hanging out of the end of the guitar it can easily get bumped if you're not careful-- and using an eighth-to-quarter-inch adapter will most likely lead to a $40 "oops" in short order.

Haven't tried running the aux out into DP yet, but again this notion of using a jack adapter bothers me. I'm thinking of buying a 1/4 male-to-1/4 female cable, and then securing the amPlug on/in some sort of protective container to avoid that one single nasty bump that no one wants---- Just for clarity-- the 1/4" male comes from the guitar while the amPlug goes into the female side. With it secure on a tabletop, it would be safer to then run a 1/8"-to-1/4" from the aux into DP.

There are no regrets whatsover from Middle-earth. This is a great little box.

I'll save the Classic Rock model for tomorrow! 8)

Okay. So ends the tale of sleepy hobbit.
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Thanks for the report, dear Hobbit. You've got me really excited about playing with this little marvel. I hope mine ships soon.

Great to see your close-up and to observe the authentic colours in the argyle pattern. It is worth $40 just for that!
Frodo wrote:It's got "that sound"-- that thick "full of snot" analog quality I love so much-- and a certain classic Vox AC30 "character".
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I want you so bad
I want you
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zed wrote: I hope mine ships soon.
Did you keep your order with the current out-of-stock vendor, or did you try a different one? I hope it ships soon for you as well so that you can give a proper review-- you know, one done by an actual guitarist who knows what he's talking about! :P
zed wrote: Great to see your close-up and to observe the authentic colours in the argyle pattern. It is worth $40 just for that!
It is a cool, classic logo-- It just says "Beatles" without really doing so, doesn't it?
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I want you so bad
I want you
I want you so bad
It's driving me mad
It's driving me mad.
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Frodo wrote:Did you keep your order with the current out-of-stock vendor, or did you try a different one?
I just left things the same. I couldn't be bothered to worry about it, as I have too many toys I should otherwise be playing with anyhow. But I sure wish I could give it a whirl.
Frodo wrote:I hope it ships soon for you as well so that you can give a proper review-- you know, one done by an actual guitarist who knows what he's talking about! :P
Hmmmm. I suspect that you probably overestimate the quality of my playing, and underestimate the quality your own. Just because I've noodled around on a guitar for a few decades, doesn't make me any more "actual" than you. :wink: I can do a few things, but I know there is much more that I could learn, and many more things I could learn to do better.

We don't have to play the guitar flawlessly to know if this thing sounds great or not. I trust your impressions of the VOX amPlug because I know you're a good listener. But I will certainly provide my impressions, as soon as I get it... and I will add the additional context of how it sounds going through a real tube amp.

Now that's exciting! :P
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zed wrote: Hmmmm. I suspect that you probably overestimate the quality of my playing, and underestimate the quality your own. Just because I've noodled around on a guitar for a few decades, doesn't make me any more "actual" than you. :wink: I can do a few things, but I know there is much more that I could learn, and many more things I could learn to do better.
Dunno, Zed. I'm a pianist by default and have only gradually picked up the guitar over the past couple years, doing more practicing since this thread began in January than I've been able to do in my entire life. For recording work, I'm quite the "punch in one phrase at a time" kind of player and would never hire myself out as a guitarist. I haven't played guitar in a band since high school, but I'm an armchair monster rocker!! LOL!!
zed wrote: We don't have to play the guitar flawlessly to know if this thing sounds great or not. I trust your impressions of the VOX amPlug because I know you're a good listener.
I can agree with that. We know what we like, and if much of what we like is related to the Beatles then an honest assessment is not too much of a challenge.
zed wrote: But I will certainly provide my impressions, as soon as I get it... and I will add the additional context of how it sounds going through a real tube amp.

Now that's exciting! :P
Indeed. Getting a better sense of uses for this thing, both practical and extended, will be very exciting to hear-- especially when it may involve gear I don't have.

Alas, these days find me chained to Finale so I must hop to it. As I work on other types of projects that actually pay the bills rather than to generate them, I run across various Beatle-related items. My latest find from the Bag End archives is a long-lost copy of the CD "Let It Be: Naked"-- unopened. I'm really looking forward to hearing the remastered "unplugged" version to really hear the instruments up close without all the orchestral sweetening. I know that by then they were using Fender amps among other things, but between the amPlug Classic and Amplitube 2 there should be more than enough choices to keep me occupied.

I just know that if I start in now on listening to Beatle tunes I'll never get anything else done! :P
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Frodo wrote:I just know that if I start in now on listening to Beatle tunes I'll never get anything else done! :P
Then I guess you won't want me to distract you by announcing the release of a new triple disc McCartney DVD featuring music spanning his solo career? Sorry. :wink:

You can watch promo videos at YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8B2zk1Beyk (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kss0Doq ... re=related (part 2)

We love the Beatles. We love Paul.

I love my bed.


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Goodnight, sleep tight
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zed wrote:
Frodo wrote:I just know that if I start in now on listening to Beatle tunes I'll never get anything else done! :P
Then I guess you won't want me to distract you by announcing the release of a new triple disc McCartney DVD featuring music spanning his solo career? Sorry. :wink:

You can watch promo videos at YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8B2zk1Beyk (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kss0Doq ... re=related (part 2)

We love the Beatles. We love Paul.

I love my bed.


Now's the time to say goodnight
Goodnight, sleep tight
AARRRGGGGH!!

I'm doomed! :wink:

Thanks for the heads up.
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noisetree wrote:realy love this one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cqOKvonLrH8&feature=related
Yeah Baby! Me too. We love the 3 Beatles! :wink:

I wonder if that is John Lennon's white grand which was used on "Imagine" and subsequently auctioned off to George Michael for $1,000,000. Hmmmmmm.
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noisetree wrote:realy love this one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cqOKvonLrH8&feature=related

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