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Shooshie wrote:It'll be a cold day in hell before I switch to Windows, Windows was a turd on a shingle, masquerading as the main dish. Yay for 64 bit!
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My sentiments exactly Shooshie, I'm a Mac User, always have been, always will be. Although this thread is about DP-8 there's a lot of discussion about the future of the Mac Pro. Likely much ado about nothing. There will be a Mac Pro but probably nothing resembling the previous ones (I could be wrong). The game changer is TB. People with legacy hardware (and it's not just we DP users) will have options with external bits of hardware for cards etc. As Dave Polich said, you can't stop progress and I really think Apple doesn't want to put out another large aluminum box. I'm thinking the future is more along the lines of the iMac style and TB compliments it perfectly, note UA's Apollo.

Power users will be OK, I just think things are going to look a bit different.

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FutureLegends wrote:
You didn't happen to catch anything about the new interface or the iPad CueMix app?

Cheers
Didn't see a demo of the new interface or the iPad app.
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WIndows, 64bit got it. BUT I'm wondering, apart from Punch Guard and "some new video stuff", are there any new features in DP8?
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Actually, there is some news on the UAD front, which showed up on the web yesterday: Sonnox is going to port all of their plugs to the platform. Presumably this is to compensate for the disappearance of TC Powercore.
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Babz wrote:Surely Windows and 64-bit alone don't justify a whole digit 7-to-8 upgrade? What other new features? Some new stompbox plugins, OK, and what else?
64-bit is the ONLY new feature I really care about. I have been painfully waiting for it to arrive for a couple of years. For me it is going to allow me to actually do stuff that I have been too crippled to do with the 32-bit limitation and my particular computer's bottleneck which gives me much less RAM allowance than most others. I don't care about other new features as much as I want existing features to work, and to work efficiently.

Does it justify a whole digit upgrade? I'd say so for sure. And what is the sum of 8 x 8? :koolaid:
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dix wrote:WIndows, 64bit got it. BUT I'm wondering, apart from Punch Guard and "some new video stuff", are there any new features in DP8?
Have you read the posts? New plug-ins, for one. I don't know how much "newer" features can get than that.

Ok, I kind of get it. Maybe you're looking for really new features...along the lines of...what exactly?

At any rate...the entire list of new features will be made available by MOTU.
How could any of us possibly know what they all are?
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David Polich wrote:
dix wrote:WIndows, 64bit got it. BUT I'm wondering, apart from Punch Guard and "some new video stuff", are there any new features in DP8?
Have you read the posts? New plug-ins, for one. I don't know how much "newer" features can get than that.
This is my favorite new feature that you, David, reported in the other thread...
David Polich wrote:The new "punch guard" feature is cool. Even when you punch in on the fly, or
define a point to punch in, DP8 starts recording before the point where you
punched in, and after you punch out. So if, for example, you are recording
a live band and you stop recording when you think the song is done, but the
drummer does some extra bashing after the band stops, not to worry - that
"extra" recording you think you missed is actually there.
I am so excited about this. Sometimes I cut myself off when a guitar is sustaining, or before I realize some cool accident is about to happen, and sometimes I even do a practise phrase before punching in which sounds bang on the money. It will be great to be able to salvage these things. I had heard about Logic doing something similar for a few years now, and was salivating over the idea of having that in DP.

That's a cool feature. More guitar effects... not so much.
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David Polich wrote:At any rate...the entire list of new features will be made available by MOTU. How could any of us possibly know what they all are?
By pumping the MOTU reps for info at namm! ;)
Most companies update their webpages the minute namm starts with all their new stuff. MOTU usually update it a few days after. And they never include things not yet shipping. So there won't be any more info from MOTU about DP8 until it ships in march. So you guys that are attending namm, get all the info you can! Get Magic Dave drunk on margaritas at the dinner and get all the secrets out of him! ;)
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David Polich wrote: Have you read the posts? New plug-ins, for one. I don't know how much "newer" features can get than that.

Ok, I kind of get it. Maybe you're looking for really new features...along the lines of...what exactly?

At any rate...the entire list of new features will be made available by MOTU.
How could any of us possibly know what they all are?
Yes, David I've read the posts. I was responding to them. I'd think anyone who saw the demo might notice if there were new additions to the app (I don't consider plugins features per se). I'm wondering about new workflow features etc. There's multiple threads with zillions of feature requests in the forums (vari-speed, MIDI note muting, multiple marker tracks, continuous buffer-setting visibility etc etc...). The Punch Guard is a good example. Any others?
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The fact that some people here don't see how major this upgrade is baffles me,potentially DP8 is more of a leap than anything we've
experienced in many years!
I do think this is a much larger upgrade than we experienced w/ the DP---> OSX transition & yes I expect a few bumps along the way that will require a few revisions to get everything working as intended.
On top of all of this Motu has announced new additional plugs and features & there are probably a few more as well that we don't know about yet, I don't want more, I want everything to work!
I see some exciting possibilities in our future w/DP8!
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kgdrum wrote:The fact that some people here don't see how major this upgrade is baffles me,potentially DP8 is more of a leap than anything we've
experienced in many years!
I do think this is a much larger upgrade than we experienced w/ the DP---> OSX transition & yes I expect a few bumps along the way that will require a few revisions to get everything working as intended.
On top of all of this Motu has announced new additional plugs and features & there are probably a few more as well that we don't know about yet, I don't want more, I want everything to work!
I see some exciting possibilities in our future w/DP8!
Not at all wanting to start some sort of argument but 64 bit was in the roadmap, new plug ins are not that interesting to older users as we've bought most of what we need, and and workflow enhancements are the main interest that most of us here have talked about since DP7 hit, how cool it was that it was a focus of DP7 and wishes for new ones.

So to recap:
Not moving to Windows, so that's cool for MOTU, means nothing to me.

64 bit, cool, we all knew it was coming, but cool.

New plug ins, not that interested, sorry, they tend to be leaders for new customers, I use Trim, MW EQ and Pro Verb, not much else.

Punch Guard, cool! would like to know more about the little features that are new to DP8, because quite honestly besides 64 bit for old customers this is it.

Windows version is a game changer for MOTU, for me, not so much. So the major difference in DP, the one that was a big surprise is of little use to veteran users. So what exactly are we to be excited about? This is brutal I know, but 64 bit isn't anything to get excited about, it's not a new feature, it's a necessary step if DP is to survive. In the end I'm sorry but I care only about the features that I can use, and so far it's Punch guard and that's it.
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I think 64bit DP will be the biggest workflow enhancement we've experienced in some time ;)
surprised, no. Now that it's confirmed, elated
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Synthogy has announced a new New York Steinway addition to Ivory II:

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/01/ ... ory-piano/

The timing couldn't be better, as I was just about to spring for Quantum leap Pianos at half price this weekend.
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dix wrote:
David Polich wrote: Have you read the posts? New plug-ins, for one. I don't know how much "newer" features can get than that.

Ok, I kind of get it. Maybe you're looking for really new features...along the lines of...what exactly?

At any rate...the entire list of new features will be made available by MOTU.
How could any of us possibly know what they all are?
Yes, David I've read the posts. I was responding to them. I'd think anyone who saw the demo might notice if there were new additions to the app (I don't consider plugins features per se). I'm wondering about new workflow features etc. There's multiple threads with zillions of feature requests in the forums (vari-speed, MIDI note muting, multiple marker tracks, continuous buffer-setting visibility etc etc...). The Punch Guard is a good example. Any others?
Honestly, I'm not the person to ask. Ask MOTU. Ask Magic Dave...wait, he's busy at NAMM, ask him next week.

Historically speaking, every upgrade of DP, without exception, has had a "bunch" of new features. There may even be more added between now and March release.

Will I buy DP8? Yes. Anyone looking for reasons not to buy it can undoubtedly find some.
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