DP 6.01 released!

[Tuxtla]

...more random hangs or crashes than in either 6.0 or DP 5.1.4.

Did I miss an update somewhere?

No. My mistake. 5.1.3 was the last before 6.

[dogBoy]

I'm running 10.4.11 on an Intel Imac. I'm having problems with DP6, a-lot of the same problems as others.
Is Dp6 working better with Leopard ? Having a hard time getting a reading, who problems apply to who's OS and computer chip set.
If Dp6 works better in Leopard I'll probably switch OS.

It seems Motu is particularly vague with this upgrade, as if they can't commit to any sense of the problem fixes. Really keeping it close to their vest.

oh and FabFilter's Pro-C is not passing audio, I can see it can't hear it. It works with other programs, I know this is on Motu. Drag.

[pcm]

The 6.01 experience so far:
>BIG SNIP<
....I'll hang in there and I'm sure that they'll get it right some day BUT, right now, it's got the same smell as Apple's recent roll out of the Mobile Me service.

Ouch!

The biggest problem for me is that SO much is changed, it's like using a whole new program. I know both PT and DP4/5 backwards and forwards. I can battle my way through Logic when needed. Did I really need to have my ease of use with DP completely and utterly thrown out the window? And for what? A blinding UI? A whole new list of broken things? Just so I can have Proverb and the Leveler? This is not a good trade. At least not for me.

[bOing]

I guess the new color scheme was just a marketing ploy to create the illusion of "newness" without too much investment in the direction of usability. I used the "newest" DP6 GUI all day yesterday and am quite pleased that it was easy to stare at for long periods while offering me the feeling - the excitement - of being an explorer.

Sure, it's nice to sleep in your own bed. But let's face it, half of the reason to buy something new is to feel like a techno Columbus. The other is to have more and better stuff. The thing that we don't expect is to lose what we already have gained in previous upgrading/shopping adventures.

Sure, we're all for the most part serious about being great musicians/songwriters/recordists/performers, but we like our Christmas too [or whatever day you get your new toys]. I'm not crazy about the glitches and defects, but I feel like I'm a little younger - 2 years, perhaps.

[dpdan]

thank you tunwurm,
I did see your earlier post, but it is aggravating not being able to use the SE window for this,
which is what I am used to.
Using bars in the GE does work, but MOTU needs to fix this stuff.

It is so depressing to read so many negative posts about broken features in DP,
especially when it used to be so awesome.

I own Altiverb, and the ProVerb is a joke in comparison,
I agree with pcm's comments.
Not an upgrade to me.
And why on Earth does the mini menu have to be on the opposite side of the window?
I am on three monitors, and the mini menu is waaaay over there>>>>
It would be nice if there was a key command for "open mini menu" for the last touched window.
Dan

Did I really need to have my ease of use with DP completely and utterly thrown out the window? And for what? A blinding UI? A whole new list of broken things? Just so I can have Proverb and the Leveler? This is not a good trade. At least not for me.

[monkey man]

Hey Monkey Man, that's far and away your best avatar ever -- keep it!

Hard to argue with that, Mark; thanks mate! LOL

The reality of the situation is that I can't keep it though; there's a one-a-month rule in place 'till I hit the repetition phase. I hope to cycle 30 or 40 of 'em, and have used 28 so far. I've a soft spot for a number of them, so it all works out fine in the end for me; I've an allergy to stagnation (this surely adds to my frustration of being dead in the water).

Enjoy the bass-playin' gorilla-dude. He says hi, BTW.

[mhschmieder]

Although technically, apes/gorillas aren't monkeys .

You could always rename yourself after that famous Kinks song.

That ape is a little too retro for me, now that I look closer: I play 5-string basses .

[jlaudon]

HAve to say it again for the newbies to this board - wait until MM big lips avatar comes back - that's the one

[kassonica]

HAve to say it again for the newbies to this board - wait until MM big lips avatar comes back - that's the one

Yes how could anyone forget that Monkey, was a classic is a classic will be a classic again it seems

[monkey man]

Well, you know what they say - fashion tastes are cyclical.

Although technically, apes/gorillas aren't monkeys .

Not a problem, Mark - Monkey Man is chimp court jester, gorilla sophistication, monkey agility and urangutang good looks all rolled into one. FWIW, most of my laughs have come whilst picturing myself being me... as a chimp (which I am). Stay with me here... Many of said involuntary air expulsions have occurred during excursions into monkeydome and all things monkey, and some of these quaint emissions have accompanied gorilla-inspired epiphanies.

In short, I'm all things simian, the one and only simian slacker, part-time simian slinger and holder of the world distance-flingin' record for class 3 (semi-soft but slightly dry) which I set at the 1976 Poolympics.

Oh yeah, and whilst I have myself on hand for the authorship of this profile, I've told myself to inform you that I've nominated myself for Jungleville's Most Humble award for 2008; the fact that I'll win in the face of stiff opposition from all creatures great and small is testament to my, well, greatness. Aren't you glad you know me?

[Monkey turns and crosses the street, admiring his handsome reflection on every passing car]

Well, I'm glad I know me; I couldn't have hoped to meet a nicer chap.

That ape is a little too retro for me, now that I look closer: I play 5-string basses .

I'm doin' the retro cool thing Mark. It's for some start-up bass-playin' punk who calls himself Slick Jams; he's some kind of super freak. Reckons he can play too, but he'll not get the chance now that I'm sitting in. [Cue image of imposing gorilla with equally weighty bass rig]

PUBLIC NOTICE:
Kids, do not feed the wildlife. Doing so may have unforeseen consequences. Not all response permutations have been modelled yet.

[monkey man]

Wha?... Who is this freak? He's somehow managed to hack my membership account and soil my pristine poops... I mean, posts. Geez... the nerve of some folks.

Anyway, more positive 6.01 reports have begun to filter through the "but it just can't be good yet, can it?" veil. Starting to look up IMHO. Well done MOTU - nice update, and chunky too (I don't remember a .01 release's introducing so many changes, fixes and new features before, and all in a measly 40MB). Bravo!

[nk_e]

The 6.01 experience so far:
>BIG SNIP<
....I'll hang in there and I'm sure that they'll get it right some day BUT, right now, it's got the same smell as Apple's recent roll out of the Mobile Me service.

Ouch!

The biggest problem for me is that SO much is changed, it's like using a whole new program. I know both PT and DP4/5 backwards and forwards. I can battle my way through Logic when needed. Did I really need to have my ease of use with DP completely and utterly thrown out the window? And for what? A blinding UI? A whole new list of broken things? Just so I can have Proverb and the Leveler? This is not a good trade. At least not for me.

I hear ya. For me, it's not so bad though. I've used DP for a while, but it's one of several tools and I never became deeply invested in a particular workflow in it. (A bit to my chagrin I might add.) So the learning curve is not as steep / habits not as ingrained. That being the case, it's easier for me to "go with the new flow" I think.

This board -- the DP community -- has a lot of veterans who are working professionals. That means investment in time, development of workflows, getting everything "just right" so projects can be completed on time and on budget. Changing a tool/workflow at the heart of something like that is a wrenching thing to be sure.

MOTU is in a rough place: How do you update a program and keep it moving forward when so many of your base are invested in where it is right now? The response I anticipate to a question like that is "ask your user base". And I would agree. Lord knows MOTU could do a better job involving its users. However, there's a hard core for whom change is difficult and ANY move made will cause inconvenience and angst. And those folks tend to be vocal. (And I'm NOT implying that you are one of them!)

How would you approach making significant changes to such a tool?

[Renaissance Man]

Hey Monkey Man. I must say that this is your best avitar yet (with one minor caviet). Since it's an ape and not a monkey you may want to change your monkier (pun intended) to Ape Man.

[mhschmieder]

Hey, isn't that what I just said?

I should sue for plagiarism .

[monkey man]

Hey Monkey Man. I must say that this is your best avitar yet (with one minor caviet). Since it's an ape and not a monkey you may want to change your monkier (pun intended) to Ape Man.

You trying to make a monkey out of me, RM? Oh... I see - you're trying to make an ape out of me. Sorry. My bad.

Hey, isn't that what I just said?
I should sue for plagiarism .

The plague is the least of his worries, Mark - I mean, this guy just stole your words!

Hang on... are you in this too? Rats!