A PDF Manual for DP

blue · Post by **blue** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:46 pm

Oh no! What have I wrought?!

Tritonemusic · Post by **Tritonemusic** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:29 pm

Frodo wrote:

Thanks, Frodo, but I already knew that.

TOTALLY off-topic:

Frodo,

Am I confusing you with someone else or not: I seem to remember you as a vocalist/pianist and you used to have a link to your music. I'm talking about the OLD Unicornation. I don't remember your avatar, but I know it wasn't your current one. I realize this may sound completely nuts, but I had to ask. Thanks!

YouTube · Post by **James Steele** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:21 pm

Frodo wrote:

LOL... usually I have to have a few beers before I start gushing about how much I love you guys.

jgest · Post by **jgest** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:11 pm

monkey man wrote:
jgest wrote:and then there is the highbrow approach.........not to participate and feed the fire
Of course, you're right; that is an approach!

After clicking the link to jgest's DP inspired music...
http://www.mp3.com.au/artist.asp?id=10004

"Whooaa...Shpongle?" was my reaction.
Dude, I haven't seen that name in a while.
No one I know's ever heard it.

You've got taste, man.

thanks for the sentiment.

dougieb · Post by **dougieb** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:05 pm

Yeah, the .pdf of the manual is great in Logic - one of its advantages over DP - but Logic still blows balls on a lot of other things. On the Intel Mac, its got the working VI's and doesn't really crash annoying as it is - as opposed to DP which is missing a lot of VI's I need to work and crashes constantly.

PLUS... another bonus to Logic is that you don't get flamed when you ask where the .pdf copy of the manual is.

PS: Logic's copy protection also blows balls.

blue · Post by **blue** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:33 pm

dougieb wrote:PLUS... another bonus to Logic is that you don't get flamed when you ask where the .pdf copy of the manual is.

PS: Logic's copy protection also blows balls.

Maybe it's partly because Logic's copy protection, as you say, blows balls (ie. works) that people don't get flamed about asking where the PDF manual is.

nickmorgan19457 · Post by **nickmorgan19457** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:35 pm

Does DP really crash that often? Or does he just mean while running it through Rosetta?

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:23 pm

nickmorgan19457 wrote:Does DP really crash that often? Or does he just mean while running it through Rosetta?

Whether or not DP crashes a lot differs from user to user. It's rock solid for me. I rely on it for paid work.

You'll never get a reasonable gauge on stability by polling user bulletin boards. Plus, no one will have the set-up you'll have; you'll be your own island.

One thing that can be said about this board though: People will try to help you with DP-related issues.

BTW: I'm not sure how a PDF manual serve as any great advantage. Like I half-stated before, a licensed DP user has a manual and online help available.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:26 pm

666 wrote:TOTALLY off-topic:

Frodo,

Am I confusing you with someone else or not: I seem to remember you as a vocalist/pianist and you used to have a link to your music. I'm talking about the OLD Unicornation. I don't remember your avatar, but I know it wasn't your current one. I realize this may sound completely nuts, but I had to ask. Thanks!

Hey Six: (may I call you by your middle name? LOL)

-- good memory. It sounds like me from back then, lots of p/v work going on at the time.

I don't remember my avatar back then, tho. Odd thing, that was before LOTR movies came out, so now you know how hopeless a Tolkien fan I really am.

more telling is my hopeless attachment to DP. We were still on v 2.x back then.

Wow-- we've come a long way.

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:30 pm

James Steele wrote:LOL... usually I have to have a few beers before I start gushing about how much I love you guys.

It's always after 5pm somewhere in the world!

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:45 pm

chrispick wrote:
nickmorgan19457 wrote:Does DP really crash that often? Or does he just mean while running it through Rosetta?
Whether or not DP crashes a lot differs from user to user. It's rock solid for me. I rely on it for paid work.

You'll never get a reasonable gauge on stability by polling user bulletin boards. Plus, no one will have the set-up you'll have; you'll be your own island.

One thing that can be said about this board though: People will try to help you with DP-related issues.

5.1 on PPC seems pretty darn stable for me in 10.4.7.

The Intel issues I've heard *mostly* about have been with plugs not being up to snuff rather than Rosetta being directly to blame. I just keep hearing people raving about how DP 'screams' on the Intel otherwise.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:16 am

Frodo wrote:The thing I have to keep reminding myself of is that those who ask are unaware that they are not the first to ask such a question. The repetitive nature of the question is more from the perspective of those who have been here a while and who have seen threads about this grow long in a short time.

The hobbit nails it...

Frodo wrote:The other thing is that perhaps the unavailability of the PDF should be made clearer as a matter of statement on MOTU's site for prospective buyers. The reason why people come here is because there are so many honest questions which are simply not answered on MOTU's site, which is much more of a glorified ad than it is a resource for vital info. 90% of the time, the tech notes and support searches yield no results-- so people really have few other choices but to come here to ask-- and often at the risk of getting their heads knocked off.

Fair comment.
We shouldn't have to deal with this stuff as regularly.

Frodo wrote:Perhaps veteran users could spend less time worrying about the PDF questions of new members in favor of helping those members find answers to how DP works, such as was done here the way RA did for Nick. It would be ever so much cooler to take the high road with this issue....

He nails it all the way in.

Personally, I just needed some comic relief too desperately for my own good.
As was the case the last time I did this, I couldn't sleep a wink.
I'm just here to help. If a contentious or beligerant tone can be detected in my posts, I'm sorry.
Sorry, Nick if you were offended or distressed in any way by my posts.

Frodo wrote:...but that's just my 3• fwiw

It's gold, baby.

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:17 am

Resonant Alien wrote:Thirdly, would I really be that hard to make a pdf manual, and not put the sticker on it? It mean, is there anything I could learn from the manual that I couldn't learn on here with a single post and a fews hours of waiting?

I'm with ya bro - I just don't get the whole "no PDF" thing....Apple puts the serial numbers on the discs themselves and gives you the PDF.

I could have been clearer earlier but thought the following was obvious:
The pirate may glean the odd detail here and there, but it seems we Unicorns tend to "mind the shed" rather efficiently...
At the very least our behaviour's a deterrent.
We don't see too many extended troubleshooting dialogues with pirates, do we?

The community here is not only a safeguard, but also a carrot to buy DP.

Resonant Alien wrote:And fouth, and finally. I tired to do the in store demo thing a few weeks ago. I live in the middle of nowhere Vermont, putting me 5 hours from the nearest store with DP in stock, letalone a demo. I honestly couldn't handle talking to the salesman.

Also with ya here.....

I'm so totally with you both!
I've yet to meet a DP user in the flesh!

monkey man · Post by **monkey man** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:17 am

James Steele wrote:
Frodo wrote:
LOL... usually I have to have a few beers before I start gushing about how much I love you guys.

It used to only take a couple o' bananas, as there's quite a lot of grog in 'em, and I'm a monkey not a gorilla.
Now, 'cause I love Unicorns so much, it takes... nothing!

This part isn't a joke, though...I love you all.

cyborg haines · Post by **cyborg haines** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:59 am

Send me 10.000$ and i make a PDF manual for you