It seems there's more than a few of us here with the 828 vs SP2 problem. I had everything going great on a music computer with no XP service packs. Now I'm in an install where "uninstall SP2" is not an option. Constant crackling, light flashing and dropouts are the norm.
My question is, has anyone tried this in a dual boot situation? I'm talking about one install of XP with everything installed for the web and office tasks and another boot of the same OS for music with all services stripped down, ethernet and other unecesary hardware disabled, and no service packs.
Can this be done with XP as it is? My previous install was Win98 for the web and XP for music. Everything was fine.
828 XP - Does This Work?
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Hi,
I'm guessing by "XP as it is" you're talking about without starting two clean installs? You should be able to, but I'd be extra careful about it. For instance: Get every possible thing you need backed up or moved elsewhere, and Ghost the original drive beforehand if possible.
Then, I'd think you should have no problem installing a boot manager of your choosing, and pointing the next install to where you want it. This I guess, is assuming you've got more than one partition currently available. If not, you'd have to use some partitioning utility to chop off what you need from the free space and update the partition map or whatever, then you could start doing the boot manager junk.
I've noticed that XP seems to have some of that stuff built-in, as I've seen it ask about setting up an additional OS partition, but that was all during an install (before the formatting stage). If I were doing it after the fact, I might rather use something simple and reliable, like Partition Magic/Boot Magic. Some will also do some neat stuff with hiding the "not in use" partitions, etc., plus they've got cool boot screens.
Before you get into any of that chaos, you may want to look into any alternatives you may have. Windows has always had that stuff like the "hardware profiles" and all, and XP should have even more. If you're using the same OS version, you may be able to just keep a "set" with the minimal stuff running, and all else disabled, and switch over to it when needed. If that works, it'll be a hell of a lot less space.
Never used that crap myself, but they must have put it in there for something.
Take Care
I'm guessing by "XP as it is" you're talking about without starting two clean installs? You should be able to, but I'd be extra careful about it. For instance: Get every possible thing you need backed up or moved elsewhere, and Ghost the original drive beforehand if possible.
Then, I'd think you should have no problem installing a boot manager of your choosing, and pointing the next install to where you want it. This I guess, is assuming you've got more than one partition currently available. If not, you'd have to use some partitioning utility to chop off what you need from the free space and update the partition map or whatever, then you could start doing the boot manager junk.
I've noticed that XP seems to have some of that stuff built-in, as I've seen it ask about setting up an additional OS partition, but that was all during an install (before the formatting stage). If I were doing it after the fact, I might rather use something simple and reliable, like Partition Magic/Boot Magic. Some will also do some neat stuff with hiding the "not in use" partitions, etc., plus they've got cool boot screens.
Before you get into any of that chaos, you may want to look into any alternatives you may have. Windows has always had that stuff like the "hardware profiles" and all, and XP should have even more. If you're using the same OS version, you may be able to just keep a "set" with the minimal stuff running, and all else disabled, and switch over to it when needed. If that works, it'll be a hell of a lot less space.
Never used that crap myself, but they must have put it in there for something.
Take Care
Thanks for the reply. I've already tried an alternate hardware profile, disabling any extranious hardware and services from a "music" profile. It still doesn't work.
By "XP as it is" I was referring to additional boot managers. etc. As you've noted, XP has a bit of a boot manager in it. I had Win98SE and XP on two separate boots and it was all managed within a window in XP. I have partitioning software and can create additional drive partitions. I'm not sure if XP can do this again with two installs of itself. I was actually hoping someone may have tried this before I go off on another struggle with Windows. When I had the very stripped down install of XP running before, it worked great.
By "XP as it is" I was referring to additional boot managers. etc. As you've noted, XP has a bit of a boot manager in it. I had Win98SE and XP on two separate boots and it was all managed within a window in XP. I have partitioning software and can create additional drive partitions. I'm not sure if XP can do this again with two installs of itself. I was actually hoping someone may have tried this before I go off on another struggle with Windows. When I had the very stripped down install of XP running before, it worked great.
Hey again,
Yeah, I had a dual XP/98SE setup a while back with that Microsoft boot manager too, but I'm usually running a secondary 98 machine on a KVM, so there wasn't much reason to boot into that on the main. XP does seem more like it's geared to set itself up for two actual different operating systems. I'm not sure what it might do after seeing the same drivers and system folders across two "XP" partitions. That's why I'd say to go with a third party boot manager. They should be able to hide the undesired one, and take care of all the active/primary partition crap.
It's starting to sound more like you've just got an SP2 problem. Was reformatting and bouncing back to a clean install of SP1 (or even just XP) not an option? Once I've made enough mess, I'll usually make myself do a clean install, rather than try to restore stuff, but I also keep at least two partitions on my machines, so there's usually a Ghost image or two of the system drive hanging around from the "virgin" days.
Good Luck,
George
PS- I think that XP dual install option may show up when you boot from the CD, if it sees an existing Windows folder. I guess the default is all that "repair/restore" crap, but you may be able to find it in there. (still smells dangerous though)
Yeah, I had a dual XP/98SE setup a while back with that Microsoft boot manager too, but I'm usually running a secondary 98 machine on a KVM, so there wasn't much reason to boot into that on the main. XP does seem more like it's geared to set itself up for two actual different operating systems. I'm not sure what it might do after seeing the same drivers and system folders across two "XP" partitions. That's why I'd say to go with a third party boot manager. They should be able to hide the undesired one, and take care of all the active/primary partition crap.
It's starting to sound more like you've just got an SP2 problem. Was reformatting and bouncing back to a clean install of SP1 (or even just XP) not an option? Once I've made enough mess, I'll usually make myself do a clean install, rather than try to restore stuff, but I also keep at least two partitions on my machines, so there's usually a Ghost image or two of the system drive hanging around from the "virgin" days.
Good Luck,
George
PS- I think that XP dual install option may show up when you boot from the CD, if it sees an existing Windows folder. I guess the default is all that "repair/restore" crap, but you may be able to find it in there. (still smells dangerous though)