Falcon upgrade
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Falcon upgrade
I was just about to pull the trigger and then I thought, "Wait, given my recent experience with the timing of my Mac mini M1 purchase and the introduction of the Mac Studio, if I do that it can only be a matter of days until MOTU announces full Mach V compatibility". Haha.
Funny, not funny.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
I would easily bet you that will never happen. UVI took back their license with Falcon, I don't think there's a shred of evidence against this logical conclusion. I love MOTU in general, except the way they let old tech die. They still have adds on their website that make it seem like M53 etc. are current products.
https://motu.com/en-us/products/software/
This is actually kind of upsetting to me, I find it really sketchy to push software you haven't updated in 8 years or so as "Related Products". The proper term is Legacy Products. Out of nine products on that page only three of them are really working on current versions of Mac OS, and I would bet that it's not much more than three on the current version of Windows.
https://motu.com/en-us/products/software/
This is actually kind of upsetting to me, I find it really sketchy to push software you haven't updated in 8 years or so as "Related Products". The proper term is Legacy Products. Out of nine products on that page only three of them are really working on current versions of Mac OS, and I would bet that it's not much more than three on the current version of Windows.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
I agree it is unlikely MOTU is going to come up with a new version of M5. On top of that, even if they did, going to Falcon is a zero risk option. An M5 update, if it happened, would be a paid upgrade, and Falcon might still give you the upgrade deal they had if you contact them.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
I think you’re both probably right. And, yes, they gave me a code for the discount. Trigger about to be pulled.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
MOTU has a support article on using the MV3 libraries in the current UVI Player but the rest of MachFive functionality is left behind.
So pull the trigger. Let us know if you still get the $100 in credits once you do. If so, plenty of cool VIs to spend it on.I am liking the latest Keyboard Suite and World Traditions (or whatever it’s called these days)
So pull the trigger. Let us know if you still get the $100 in credits once you do. If so, plenty of cool VIs to spend it on.I am liking the latest Keyboard Suite and World Traditions (or whatever it’s called these days)
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Re: Falcon upgrade
UVI Player? Is that something else? UVI Workstation, maybe?mikehalloran wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:49 am MOTU has a support article on using the MV3 libraries in the current UVI Player but the rest of MachFive functionality is left behind.
So pull the trigger. Let us know if you still get the $100 in credits once you do. If so, plenty of cool VIs to spend it on.I am liking the latest Keyboard Suite and World Traditions (or whatever it’s called these days)
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Re: Falcon upgrade
Same thing. It’s been called UVI Player and Universal UVI Player in the past.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
Ok. I’ve been using Workstation but I have so much stuff I used to use in Mach 5. It’s time. I’ll let you know about the $100.mikehalloran wrote: ↑Sat Mar 12, 2022 11:06 am Same thing. It’s been called UVI Player and Universal UVI Player in the past.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
$100 voucher received.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
FWIW, UVI is having a sale which offers a discount on Falcon + two free expansion packs.
https://www.uvi.net/falcon?utm_source=U ... 3-28240877
If you write to UVI (as I just did) and get a discount code for the crossgrade from MachFive 3 ($179), you can also get any two expansions you like for free. That's Falcon 2 for $179 (instead of regular price of $349 or sale price of $244) plus two expansions, worth $39 each. If my math is right, that's $427 worth of stuff for $179. It's about as good a deal as there will ever be to migrate to Falcon.
https://www.uvi.net/falcon?utm_source=U ... 3-28240877
If you write to UVI (as I just did) and get a discount code for the crossgrade from MachFive 3 ($179), you can also get any two expansions you like for free. That's Falcon 2 for $179 (instead of regular price of $349 or sale price of $244) plus two expansions, worth $39 each. If my math is right, that's $427 worth of stuff for $179. It's about as good a deal as there will ever be to migrate to Falcon.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
I have to say, I've been downloading various "deals" lately. A lot of them have been Kontakt instruments... many requiring the full version of Kontakt which I own. The more I use Kontakt, the more I appreciate Falcon. I know Kontakt is the "big dog," but I prefer to use Falcon and I haven't quite put my finger on exactly why. Maybe it's as simple as the large print, but it just seems more user friendly, although it is complex.Rick Cornish wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:23 am FWIW, UVI is having a sale which offers a discount on Falcon + two free expansion packs.
https://www.uvi.net/falcon?utm_source=U ... 3-28240877
If you write to UVI (as I just did) and get a discount code for the crossgrade from MachFive 3 ($179), you can also get any two expansions you like for free. That's Falcon 2 for $179 (instead of regular price of $349 or sale price of $244) plus two expansions, worth $39 each. If my math is right, that's $427 worth of stuff for $179. It's about as good a deal as there will ever be to migrate to Falcon.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
Exactly my take on it. I only have Kontakt so I can use some of the interesting samples that need it. Otherwise I avoid it, and probably won't update it unless a no brainer sale comes along. I assume Kontakt's popularity comes from superb support given to the library developers. It can't be the elegance of the app itself.James Steele wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:57 pm The more I use Kontakt, the more I appreciate Falcon. I know Kontakt is the "big dog," but I prefer to use Falcon and I haven't quite put my finger on exactly why.
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Falcon upgrade
AN ADDENDUM……
In case the above deal isn’t good enough, after I completed the purchase, UVI sent me a discount code for $100 off the price of software instruments and Falcon expansions. (Not sure if it applies to their plugins, but still…)
I got three more Falcon expansions for $17.
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In case the above deal isn’t good enough, after I completed the purchase, UVI sent me a discount code for $100 off the price of software instruments and Falcon expansions. (Not sure if it applies to their plugins, but still…)
I got three more Falcon expansions for $17.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Re: Falcon upgrade
The hundred bucks applies to everything — as many of us found out when upgrading during a UVI sale. It's a good way to make your money goRick Cornish wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:43 pm AN ADDENDUM……
In case the above deal isn’t good enough, after I completed the purchase, UVI sent me a discount code for $100 off the price of software instruments and Falcon expansions. (Not sure if it applies to their plugins, but still…)
I got three more Falcon expansions for $17.
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Re: Falcon upgrade
It’s the optimization for large libraries.bayswater wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:20 pmExactly my take on it. I only have Kontakt so I can use some of the interesting samples that need it. Otherwise I avoid it, and probably won't update it unless a no brainer sale comes along. I assume Kontakt's popularity comes from superb support given to the library developers. It can't be the elegance of the app itself.James Steele wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:57 pm The more I use Kontakt, the more I appreciate Falcon. I know Kontakt is the "big dog," but I prefer to use Falcon and I haven't quite put my finger on exactly why.
Plus of course it’s early dominance in the market.
I agree though, in the past I’ve made my own instruments in Kontakt, and it’s all a lot more enjoyable in Falcon, even though in some ways Falcon is more complicated to use. The F sound Better and it does MPE as well so..
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