Some DP 5 press

chrispick · Post by **chrispick** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:24 pm

From osxrecording.com

http://www.osxrecording.com/index.php?n ... le&sid=292

Downlow on the upgrade, yo.

ryst · Post by **ryst** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:36 pm

This is a little more readable although they both say the same thing

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM06 ... mer-5.html

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:45 pm

Anyone get this? I don't see the words DIRECT MONITOR ANYWHERE???

Input monitoring modes
DP5 provides a separate input monitoring button which allows users to monitor inputs, independently of the record-enable state. Among other things, this allows the user to create a single disk track for external instrument inputs, which can then be used to monitor the live input from the instrument and subsequently to bounce the live instrument part to disk. Four different monitoring modes can be chosen: Off, Input Only, Blend and Auto. These modes provide users with a variety of input monitoring behaviors, including several that will be familiar to users of conventional analog mixers as well as users of advanced large-format mixing consoles. For example, Blend mode allows users to hear both the live input and any existing material in a disk track at the same time during playback. Monitoring automatically switches to input only as soon as the user punches in to record.

I like this though...
Clip-based volume automation and gain
In addition to track-based automation data that can be used to control the overall volume of audio in a track, specific audio regions (soundbites) can now have their own non-destructive volume automation curve. By choosing the "Bite volume" layer for an audio track in the Sequence Editor, users can draw a volume curve "inside" a soundbite with the pencil tool (or other automation tools). The bite volume curve is now part of the soundbite and remains with it (and all instances of it) when moved, trimmed, copied or otherwise manipulated. Similarly, users can now assign a global amount of non-destructive boost or cut (in hundredths of a dB) to any soundbite.

Tim · Post by **Tim** » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:32 pm

Timeline wrote:Monitoring automatically switches to input only as soon as the user punches in to record.

Uh.......yeah.

bassie12 · Post by **bassie12** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:20 am

Timeline wrote:Anyone get this? I don't see the words DIRECT MONITOR ANYWHERE???

Yep...two for the price of one. Input monitoring modes like analog tape machines or classic split consoles AND all the latency inherent in your processor....SUCH A DEAL!!

But seriously, I'm looking forward to the editing upgrades, and hopefully, some serious optimization

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:28 am

Tim wrote:
Timeline wrote:Monitoring automatically switches to input only as soon as the user punches in to record.
Uh.......yeah.

Intput is switched to now in record but it's not direct monitoring using core or in MOTU terms, hardware playthrough. We need it in the main mixer.

I think it should say something about latency here too and it dosen't.

MOTU please clarify! Are you going to give us DM or not?

mal201 · Post by **mal201** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:24 am

Not ask $64,000 dumb question but does anybpdy know if DP 5 is going to be a universal binary? I'm looking to pick up a mactel machine in the next few months and would like to have DP ready to go for it.

Timeline · Post by **Timeline** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:55 am

bassie12 wrote:
Timeline wrote:Anyone get this? I don't see the words DIRECT MONITOR ANYWHERE???
Yep...two for the price of one. Input monitoring modes like analog tape machines or classic split consoles AND all the latency inherent in your processor....SUCH A DEAL!!

But seriously, I'm looking forward to the editing upgrades, and hopefully, some serious optimization

To live with "monitor through effects" for overdubbing we would need quad processors running 5GHZ to get low latency and if overdubbing a large session, that wouldn't be enough.

I hope this is just a quick overview of DP5 because to leave out such an important upgrade, (DM in MM) would be unthinkable considering the handles are there.

I see no mention of record format enhancements either.

Maybe we'll be surprised!

Frodo · Post by **Frodo** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:29 pm

"As impressive as the computer-intensive benchmarks offered by Apple might be, there is no way to avoid the fact that Intel's Core Duo processor is a 32-bit engine that is fundamentally obsolete in a 64-bit x86 world..."

This quote is from an article on MacNN.com:
http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/01/12/ ... .to.slump/

It's reports like this which give me pause. It is clear that there is a need for greater functionality, greater processor and RAM efficiency, and-- of course-- speed and stability. I, like many others, have been throwing money at my computer(s) to run DAWs with "x" number plugins, but if the 32-bit machines and software are indeed at the root of the 4 GB RAM brickwall then I'm in a quandry of whether to bother with creating an expensive network now-- or waiting to see if later gen IntelMacs (and DAWs) will offer 64-bit addressing at last.

I know this has been discussed before many times-- but 64-bit addressing was a big selling point, especially when the G5s first appeared. (I even recall chat about these with the later G4 models.)

My questions:
1. What is it that might be causing the arrival of 64-bit processing to be delayed? Machines *seem* to be capable, but OS and software seem to be lagging.

2. Is 64-bit processing that important, or would it make THAT much of an improvement in what DAWs users endeavor to accomplish?

3. Is the MacNN article simply bogus?

It just seems that by 2006 we might have had heard something more promising in this regard.

Maybe it's that 64-bit processing is simply not something that will make much of a difference-- or perhaps is not terribly high a priority in the world of Mac music software users. I just don't know.

I'm pleased to hear that DP5 is on its way, but I'm also annoyed that I'm getting many of the crashes in DP on my G5 2.5 Dual as it did on my G4 867 Single. We've seen RAM bumps from 2GB up to 8 and now 16-- but are we really seeing 4-8 times the improvement in RAM performance?

Any thoughts or insights on this would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Frodo

giles117 · Post by **giles117** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:36 pm

Input monitoring mode is the same as if you had the headphones off for that input, cue mix turned on and the unit in record. For me that saves having to lauch cue mix to have the inout live at all times......

Wonderful.

Also realize these features are geared toward complete motu pkg users meaning their DSP powered interfaces.... So No Latency montiring w/o having to launch cue mix. THANKS motu for saving me some more time.....

Kind Of Loud · Post by **Kind Of Loud** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:43 pm

giles117 wrote:Input monitoring mode is the same as if you had the headphones off for that input, cue mix turned on and the unit in record. For me that saves having to lauch cue mix to have the inout live at all times......

Wonderful.

Also realize these features are geared toward complete motu pkg users meaning their DSP powered interfaces.... So No Latency montiring w/o having to launch cue mix. THANKS motu for saving me some more time.....

Ahhh.....good info dude...as usual.....Thnx.

Shooshie · Post by **Shooshie** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:15 pm

Frodo! Long time no see.

Shooshie

methezer · Post by **methezer** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:43 pm

Ha!
I like at the end it says "for more info go to www.motu.com"

blue · Post by **blue** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:11 pm

is this the same frodo who used to hail from texas? the one who used to frequent the board often, before it went offline for months and months?

if so, good to see ya back. if not, well, good to see ya anyway!

BKK-OZ · Post by **BKK-OZ** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:51 pm

another article:
http://creativemac.com/articles/viewart ... p?id=37048