M1 Pro Updating and Integration

[Luke]

I picked up 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Pro a few days ago. Just opened it and began the process of attempting to get it squared away.

Gonna use Migration Assitant from my 2012 12-Core Mac Pro running El Capitan (10.11.6) to the laptop. Currently I'm running DP 7.24 on the Mac Pro along with NI Komplete 5 and other VI's. Also, picked up MOTU's M4 interface to use with the M1 Laptop. Have yet to connect and power up.

I bought the license for DP 11 on MOTU's site a few days ago but have yet to download it to anything as I want to try and get all my ducks in a row first. I have also received NI's Komplete 13 boxed update with included disk. I understand that 13 will need to run under Rosetta until NI gets up to speed with the M1.

I understand that Apple has changed their file format (don't know of that's the correct way of stating that). So I hope my DP 7.24 files stay safe during the transformation.

I'm backing up everything as I write this. Waiting on a massive Time Machine backup to finish (2 hours left) before I continue on. Laptop stares at me from the Migration Assistant page wondering what the hold up is

Wish me luck if you like. I'm a little nervous with all this. Looking forward to seeing the new things that have happened with DP since I last updated many years ago with 7.24. And with Komplete 13 since I'm on 5. And to check out the M4.

Feel free to ask any questions you might have or share any advice you might wanna give. I appreciate all of you.

[mikehalloran]

Apple has not changed their file format but they have changed many things under the hood. The biggest is that DP 7.x was 32 bit. Any 32 bit only plugins you were using will need to be upgraded. Many are 32/64 and might still work over Rosetta 2.

Definitely use Migration Assistant as that will prevent certain permissions issues from causing you grief. DP 8-on moved certain functionality, preferences and menu items into different areas than where you are used to. The good news is that much of it makes a lot of sense and that you can search the pdf manuals in a browser or open them in a window or on an iPad etc. This will save you hours as you get up to speed in 11. Then there's the new stuff. I find it hard to believe that I've forgotten the way certain things were done in 7.24 but I have.

[dix]

Congrats Luke! That's quite a lot of newness all at once! There's a couple early adopters now on the VI-Control forum experiencing anomalous stuff with Logic, including improved performance and stability running Logic in Rosetta 2, rather than native. The only other new M1 user running Monterey with DP I've seen on MN has reported no such issues. You should be good, but it's early going.

You may have your hands full for a bit just getting set up, but once you are I'd be curious about compatibility with plugins, particularly those running in Rosetta 2 when you have a chance. ....although I guess native iLok compatibility is about to be available. Apparently a lot of developers are waiting for that to happen before they finalize and release native versions of their plugins.

Good luck!

[Luke]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for looking in on me. And thank you both for reaching out.

I had a another backup that took 12 hours (overnight) and just got back in.

M4 is good. Got iCloud and things like that connected, etc. Did a Time Machine backup to an external Lacie.

However, I haven't been able to go any further as Migration assistant can't seem to connect to the Mac Pro. I read all the instructions for performing the task. M1 sees MacPro but MacPro doesn't see M1 even though they're both on the same network/WiFi. M1 suggested turning off Firewalls. I did that to no avail on both machines. I'm stumped.

And I don't have a "wired way" to connect the machines as the MacPro has only Firewire 800 and USB. And believe it or not (with all the cables I've accrued over the years, I don't have a single USB cable thats the same on each side where I could plug one side into the USB port on the MacPro and put an USB-C/Thunderbolt 4 adaptor (which I have) to the M1.

For the life of me I don't understand why they won't connect. Old operating system (10.11.6) on MacPro? I"m puzzled.

Once I get it up and running I will let you know which plugs, etc are working for certain. Now, back to brainstorming. Hmmm...

[Luke]

So I got smarter and I am attempting to use Migration Assistant on the M1 and restore from the latest Time Machine backup from the MacPro that's on the external Lacie that's connected. So here goes.

[mikehalloran]

I take it that you’ve figured out how to grant yourself the various permissions to let one Mac transfer files to the other? Good.

[Luke]

I sure hope so Sometimes the obviousness of it all escapes me. Onward

[mrgkeys]

somewhere along the way past 10.11 Mac file sharing switched from Apple Filesharing AFP to Windows Samba SMB. I'm guessing thats the reason they're not seeing each other. You can turn SMB on in the old machine under File Sharing / Options as I recall, hoping the different versions will work. I did the Migration Assistant with my new M1, but I came from a 2018 16' and the Apple Store let me borrow a thunderbolt cable as I traded in the old one. 800 Mb transfer speeds! Only took about 20 min for a full Terabyte drive.

[Luke]

I've been in a holding pattern for the most part since I last posted. Not enough time during a busy week, etc. Had an external hard drive decide to go belly up that night. Also, the Migration Assistant from using the external drive method left the files brought over with the "red -" mark indicating I can't access them until I fix the permissions I believe. I suspect now that's what Mike was referring to. I've had to do that (change permissions) once before but it's been years so I have to try and refresh my memory on that process. Still gotta install Komplete 13 update once that is done, attempt to update compatible plug-ins, etc.

Hoping to get some time later tonight or Monday to push forward. Thank you folks for the advice and encouragement. As I mentioned earlier, I really do appreciate all of you. Such a kind, knowledgeable, and helpful community!

[HCMarkus]

Thanks for the update... the information is much appreciated. Hope everything goes well

[Phil O]

...Definitely use Migration Assistant as that will prevent certain permissions issues from causing you grief.

+1

I recently got an M1 Mac Mini and used Migration Assistant for set up. I used a Rube Goldberg combination of adapters to connect the devices together. It made the process practically painless. Many of the authorizations got moved with Migration Assistant, but as you would expect I had to re-authorize some stuff. It's a good idea to have all your authorization ducks in a row before making the move. The only thing I had trouble with is iLok authorization for some VIs. Finally got it figured out. iLok is a royal PIA.

Your friendly neighborhood Phil

[Luke]

My quest continues...

I have my DP 7.24 files stored on an external "G-Drive mobile with Thunderbolt." I thought I would test a 7.24 file by zipping it (hold down control then select compress according to Apple) within the external drive and then connect it to the new laptop and open it there. Strike 1. The DP file was an "exec" file and would not open.

So I reconnected the external back to the old Mac Pro and thought perhaps I should drag the folder to the desktop, then compress it, then add it back to the external and reattach it to the new laptop. Strike 2. Still came out as an exec file.

The external drive is formatted correctly (Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as I have been using it for quite some time with the old Mac Pro.

I did some research here at Motunation and tried renaming the the exec file ".perf" and then ".dpdoc" to no avail.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions? Am I zipping it incorrectly? Should I run Disk Utility "First Aid" or something? I am at a loss.

[Luke]

Ok...

I'm not sure exactly what I did correctly but I tried one 7.24 "file/folder/song" by a new method and it's working in DP 11 on the M1 Pro.

Zipped it on the Mac Pro. Added it to the External G Drive from there. Attached the external to the M1. Pulled the zipped file from the external drive onto the M1 desktop. Unzipped on the M1 desktop and placed it into the "document folder" of the M1 (where DP likes to put them). Put a ".dpdoc" on the "exec" file and opened it. DP11 sprung into action!

So I'm not exactly certain which parts of that process are necessary and which are not...but it worked!

However, that's just 1 song. I've got about 100 more so that process is gonna be tedious and time consuming unless I can get "smarter" very quickly.

Stepping outside for a moment to contemplate it all.

Feel free to share any thoughts on what you think got it to work if you wish. And any suggestion for a quicker process. As my method may take until the year 2030 to finish

[HCMarkus]

Might it help if you convert the files to DP11 on your old Mac before moving them? Just a thought...

[Luke]

Might it help if you convert the files to DP11 on your old Mac before moving them? Just a thought...

I'm not certain I could actually do that. The Mac Pro is stuck on 10.11.6 (El Capitan) and requires a 'Metal" card to upgrade it's OS. DP 7.24 was as far as it could go I believe. However, being the Mayor of Simpleton (thanks XTC), I could very easily be overlooking something with regards to that.