DP10 - MOTU please
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DP10 - MOTU please
MOTU, if offering a Windows version, and still supporting (what - 32 bit Windows) - please allow custom installation ..... really ... I would never touch any Windows OS before 8.1 and nothing 32bit ....
I do not need deprecated code structures on my hard disk.
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I do not need deprecated code structures on my hard disk.
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- HCMarkus
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
This is not MOTU. This is an independent site for users of MOU gear.
Re: DP10 - MOTU please
Yes, I know
Here it also seems they have to refine their VST3 implementation - most VST3s came out as problematic (disabled) (Win 10 64bit, DP10 64bit) e.g. Pianoteq latest, HALion, lots of Plugin Alliance stuff ....
Any other experiences with that?
Thanks
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Here it also seems they have to refine their VST3 implementation - most VST3s came out as problematic (disabled) (Win 10 64bit, DP10 64bit) e.g. Pianoteq latest, HALion, lots of Plugin Alliance stuff ....
Any other experiences with that?
Thanks
Best
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
DP 10 is supposed to support VST 3. Previous versions do not and never have.
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
Oh yes, VST3 is at best a crapshoot. All of my IK Multimedia T-Racks Custom Shop plugins and Tone Booster plugins failed validation, as well as some Softube stuff (Tape and TSAR-1), Scaler, TrackSpacer, and Slate VMR (which never passed VST2 either in 9.5).
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And yes, to your original point, it's a major nuisance to not be able to install only the 64 bit version. I haven't used 32 bit Windows since Vista in like, 2006.
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
To this, personally I'm OK with the newest plug in evaluation code in the latest update getting stricter on things. I've had some VST2 issues in OSX with plug ins that passed evaluation, the whole idea was to have knowledge on which plug ins weren't meeting the requirements of the format, passing plug ins that crash your system is a way less desirable outcome IMO than multiple failing plug ins on a new system. The evaluation procedure is just a PITA and worthless if it's not catching failing plug ins.toddbooster wrote:Oh yes, VST3 is at best a crapshoot. All of my IK Multimedia T-Racks Custom Shop plugins and Tone Booster plugins failed validation, as well as some Softube stuff (Tape and TSAR-1), Scaler, TrackSpacer, and Slate VMR (which never passed VST2 either in 9.5).
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
I get what you're saying, but this is the same group of VST3s I use on my system in Other DAWs with no issue whatsoever. I wish I knew what the failure point was for the plugin scanner, so I would be able to judge on my own whether there's actually a problem, or if DP is just being paranoid (or broken). After all, neither Studio One 4 and it's "New Robust Plugin Scanner®", Tracktion Waveform, nor that DAW with the name which I gather cannot be written here consider these plugins to be threatening in any way.Michael Canavan wrote:To this, personally I'm OK with the newest plug in evaluation code in the latest update getting stricter on things. I've had some VST2 issues in OSX with plug ins that passed evaluation, the whole idea was to have knowledge on which plug ins weren't meeting the requirements of the format, passing plug ins that crash your system is a way less desirable outcome IMO than multiple failing plug ins on a new system. The evaluation procedure is just a PITA and worthless if it's not catching failing plug ins.
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
I installed DP10 today and it is working well, all of my VSTs (Massive, Tera, FM8, Dune3, Kontakt, EZ-Drummer and PianoTeq seem to be recognized and validated by DP...Dune, Z3TA and Massive definitely working fine.toddbooster wrote:Oh yes, VST3 is at best a crapshoot. All of my IK Multimedia T-Racks Custom Shop plugins and Tone Booster plugins failed validation, as well as some Softube stuff (Tape and TSAR-1), Scaler, TrackSpacer, and Slate VMR (which never passed VST2 either in 9.5).
Did find however when opening a patch change in the event list, the patch change list is gooblygook, definitely not intentional...
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Re: DP10 - MOTU please
Another thing - scaling of UI misses quite some windows. MAS-Plugins (tried to use MW Limiter - remember those from the earlier days with DP2.7 to DP6 on Mac) - too tiny on my high density display ... other plugins also do not get scaled up - but some of the offer that functionality by now ans the often have a more reasonable size to start with.
Also the plugin-window shell (where one selects presets and side-chain input etc.) looks broken ( does not scale well)
anyone one else having issues with plugins an scaling.
thanks
best
Also the plugin-window shell (where one selects presets and side-chain input etc.) looks broken ( does not scale well)
anyone one else having issues with plugins an scaling.
thanks
best
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Yup, same here. The window around the plugin scales, but the plugin GUI itself does not.steff3 wrote:Another thing - scaling of UI misses quite some windows. MAS-Plugins (tried to use MW Limiter - remember those from the earlier days with DP2.7 to DP6 on Mac) - too tiny on my high density display ... other plugins also do not get scaled up - but some of the offer that functionality by now ans the often have a more reasonable size to start with.
Also the plugin-window shell (where one selects presets and side-chain input etc.) looks broken ( does not scale well)
anyone one else having issues with plugins an scaling.
thanks
best
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