DP terminology
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Kev
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DP terminology
Another Sonar Platinum refugee here, considering moving over to DP. I've been reading the DP User Guide and I'm a bit confused by some of the terminology. Does a glossary of terms exist anywhere? I'm particularly baffled by the use of the word "bundle".
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James Steele
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Re: DP terminology
Have you downloaded the 30-day free demo?
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Kev
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Re: DP terminology
Not yet. I was intending to wait until the start of the holidays. I'll be too busy during the next week or so.James Steele wrote:Have you downloaded the 30-day free demo?
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stubbsonic
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Re: DP terminology
MOTU's use of "bundle" probably has some elegant logic to it, but I can see why it doesn't land with a new user. Seems like more of a matrix to me.
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Rick Cornish
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Re: DP terminology
Hey Kev....
“Bundles” is just how DP organizes inputs, outputs, and bussing. Other DAWs call it other things and some organize them separately. Once you get used to it, it’s a handy way to manage your virtual patchbay.
BTW: There’s a pretty good series on DP8 & 9 on Groove 3 that includes a video on Bundles.
Good luck.
“Bundles” is just how DP organizes inputs, outputs, and bussing. Other DAWs call it other things and some organize them separately. Once you get used to it, it’s a handy way to manage your virtual patchbay.
BTW: There’s a pretty good series on DP8 & 9 on Groove 3 that includes a video on Bundles.
Good luck.
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Kev
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Re: DP terminology
Thanks to all of you for responding. It seems to make sense if I think "routing matrix" when I read "bundle". Videos seem to confirm this. I don't get why they chose the word "bundle" though.
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FMiguelez
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Re: DP terminology
.... Wait 'til you get to chunks....Kev wrote: I don't get why they chose the word "bundle" though.
They're awesome, BTW.
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corbo-billy
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Re: DP terminology
It's good to know this notion of Bundle with D.P. but not essential to begin.
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Kev
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Re: DP terminology
Thanks for the video.
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Kev
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Re: DP terminology
I just looked up "chunks" in the Guide and I think I get the gist of it.FMiguelez wrote:.... Wait 'til you get to chunks....Kev wrote: I don't get why they chose the word "bundle" though.
It's going to take a while to learn my way around this software. Maybe I should download a trial earlier rather than wait until the holidays.
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FMiguelez
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Re: DP terminology
Yes, you should download it and try stuff as you go.
Reading the manual is always a good idea, but if you prefer, MOTU has a YouTube channel with good tutorials. I also recommend the ones from Groove3. They have a general course and an advanced one. Go over them, and you will be on your way to really understand DP quickly.
Before DP I was using Cakewalk, and it was a very smooth transition for me. I trust the same will happen to you.
Reading the manual is always a good idea, but if you prefer, MOTU has a YouTube channel with good tutorials. I also recommend the ones from Groove3. They have a general course and an advanced one. Go over them, and you will be on your way to really understand DP quickly.
Before DP I was using Cakewalk, and it was a very smooth transition for me. I trust the same will happen to you.
Mac Mini Server i7 2.66 GHs/16 GB RAM / OSX 10.14 / DP 9.52
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Tascam DM-24, MOTU Track 16, all Spectrasonics' stuff,
Vienna Instruments SUPER PACKAGE, Waves Mercury, slaved iMac and Mac Minis running VEP 7, etc.
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"In physics the truth is rarely perfectly clear, and that is certainly universally the case in human affairs. Hence, what is not surrounded by uncertainty cannot be the truth." ― Richard Feynman
Re: DP terminology
Because it’s a lot of physical/virtual I/O assignments all wrapped up in one thing. A bundle.Kev wrote:Thanks to all of you for responding. It seems to make sense if I think "routing matrix" when I read "bundle". Videos seem to confirm this. I don't get why they chose the word "bundle" though.
A few DP terms are different from the usual definitions. Region is one of the confusing terms. Even Sequence includes things that aren’t sequences. Soundbytes and clips add to the confusion. But once you’ve used them, it all makes sense.
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